Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:99110 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55575 invoked from network); 18 May 2017 11:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 May 2017 11:35:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lists@rhsoft.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lists@rhsoft.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain rhsoft.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lists@rhsoft.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:13433] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A2/24-23431-3E68D195 for ; Thu, 18 May 2017 07:35:00 -0400 Received: from rh.thelounge.net (Authenticated sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net) by mail.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE MTA) with ESMTPSA id 3wT8HN3HhbzXMn for ; Thu, 18 May 2017 13:34:56 +0200 (CEST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1495067758.9756.47.camel@schlueters.de> Message-ID: <3a5e5414-e80f-dd86-ea56-2630cb625b63@rhsoft.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 13:34:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-CH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Implement formal process for run-tests.php refactor From: lists@rhsoft.net ("lists@rhsoft.net") Am 18.05.2017 um 12:08 schrieb Marco Pivetta: > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Johannes Schlüter > wrote: > >> On Mi, 2017-05-17 at 23:30 +0200, Marco Pivetta wrote: >>> Is Sebastian copied in here? Why can't we just use the super-battle- >>> tested >>> PHPUnit? It supports phpt and a ton of plugins, plus everyone uses it >>> and >>> is familiar with it. >> >> PHPUnit is huge. run-tests is a small script in a single file which I >> can quickly edit. For PHPUnit I have multiple files and need tooling to >> phar them up. >> > > You don't need to phar them up - just run a typical composer installation, > like everyone else, and like every PHP package running CI on > travis-ci/circle-ci/continuous-php ever built in the last 5 years. > At this point, composer and phpunit are such big players that breaking them > or breaking PHP makes no difference at all for the user-base who is the userbase you are talking about? * no composer here * no php-unit here but 250000 LOC and own testsuites and own deployment systems written in PHP without any third party libraries driving some hundret domains in place as well as a rpmbuild running "run-tests.php" as part of the build process