Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98998 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93032 invoked from network); 10 May 2017 13:04:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 May 2017 13:04:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.193 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.193 mail-wr0-f193.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.193] ([209.85.128.193:35554] helo=mail-wr0-f193.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/00-26564-7EF03195 for ; Wed, 10 May 2017 09:04:39 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f193.google.com with SMTP id g12so8274340wrg.2 for ; Wed, 10 May 2017 06:04:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=nYWRVKD0QwF6YvXJmKDt0JG9Vm47Gby3pELn4neGzMo=; b=VsCYxaPVn0LxbQx7RinWQ7EQ4Pt0o42YyX1MOcXJIOahOvjY4Ot8VYZP8+47ebTbdK hIMF8lOrp9KXZ1M1hajgy0MnD7+ulPTTrK/5198nLBIscCc2XPNgsDOU1rsgNzXlqPUh HvWatcelAED4cz9rnotFp5QSvP2BTNnH41sIlRlb/cPH+In6st7MqnjcSm7wBwYzSpJl 02l5zokeSFie1JcpmoFhgX8jt9Yz1oznkor+eITOosJU64NXYBRnMZjvxRsA6Y/0jRQz FRueOWCcwhha5zsp6q2Jaa+dHzvi1v+UyQ6M/Z7E4URZkLstpJOgew0h86WgMglgeHIx dkdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=nYWRVKD0QwF6YvXJmKDt0JG9Vm47Gby3pELn4neGzMo=; b=DVkDpAAeArpWWKCLKcLxaMhWH/3dDFYO5S8F+IPfoczEPP8cX2il1l4XpiWMOcz9J4 1wwU8TfNcdtZEdEW5iFu5JyPCpy7OfJLFJKYA7FzbFppJWQsE7rkqmyYNN2paqE4xHgJ pz+UlLZJ9rLd+FG4FX9f6UoCV/2YEVFkzNLS8qIQn8UYKZIPtNVqU/2MagogKorbvUMu KSl/FQqqyP7bmU/ALMys0nAveGyL0SQHdWO6wmI/797CMuOJDFMkXvIRv4Bq0vPnTsLG mJGInUVR6LqSmce8QyhO9TtkeZmJ2Sz94izgOF3csJcpV0EHVz3i6Z9QR4Xe51VJvXKY HTpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBKHtvbe4rZEnBeVTYiyR1uApVvpnwpvgO3ZgDwLJoFqzNrslxJ KqBZcLKR1IsYlg== X-Received: by 10.28.61.194 with SMTP id k185mr1026838wma.121.1494421476114; Wed, 10 May 2017 06:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.145.0.233] (92.40.248.242.threembb.co.uk. [92.40.248.242]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c139sm3651608wmd.11.2017.05.10.06.04.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 10 May 2017 06:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:04:30 +0100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: internals@lists.php.net,Alan Pope Message-ID: <44F2A014-7DA2-49EF-A706-342C5657B615@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Snapping php From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 10 May 2017 09:55:28 BST, Alan Pope wrote: >We=E2=80=99re working on snaps, a platform to enable ISVs to directly con= trol >delivery of software updates to their users, and make their software >available to a considerably wider audience via our snappy store=2E Hi Alan, Sorry to sound negative, but my immediate reaction to this is "Oh good, ye= t another package management and sandboxing technology!" This probably isn't the place to discuss the USPs of this over all the sys= tems that are already out there, but it does come across as a bit of an adv= ert=2E Are there particular challenges you're facing when packaging PHP specifica= lly, or are you just hoping to recruit more volunteers to help you bootstra= p your "store"? Regards, --=20 Rowan Collins [IMSoP]