Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98958 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33519 invoked from network); 3 May 2017 11:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 May 2017 11:20:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=eli@eliw.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=eli@eliw.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain eliw.com designates 104.219.57.13 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: eli@eliw.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 104.219.57.13 mx2a.servergrove.com Received: from [104.219.57.13] ([104.219.57.13:57232] helo=mx-mia-3.servergrove.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FC/E0-02776-70DB9095 for ; Wed, 03 May 2017 07:20:41 -0400 Received: from [69.195.222.125] (port=39183 helo=smtp2.servergrove.com) by mx-mia-3.servergrove.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1d5sKi-0003df-KZ for internals@lists.php.net; Wed, 03 May 2017 11:20:36 +0000 Received: from [166.170.33.1] (port=41558 helo=[10.90.53.105]) by smtp2.servergrove.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1d5sKi-0005Rt-De; Wed, 03 May 2017 11:20:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14E304) In-Reply-To: <84d53625-de7f-e2cb-e2c7-c3e83ede6219@rhsoft.net> Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 07:20:34 -0400 Cc: Mailing-List php Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <79ca3537-b439-583a-6162-05da302711f2@rhsoft.net> <403881ad-ec0c-395f-279e-6b345ee7cb39@rhsoft.net> <84d53625-de7f-e2cb-e2c7-c3e83ede6219@rhsoft.net> To: "lists@rhsoft.net" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] the experimental jit-branch is impressive From: eli@eliw.com (Eli) >> Would you mind running some numbers against "commodity >> apps/frameworks" (e.g. Wordpress, ZendFramework, Laravel, etc...) I >> expect that will be far more telling (in a potentially positive way). >> For example, HHVM performs best on "highly optimized code", which is >> why it tends to look a bit tepid against PHP 7 when run on "normal" >=20 > sorry, all my setups have a lot of stuff in the config to kill stuff like w= ordpress/joomla/typo3 so nobody comes to the idea installing after that badl= y mainatined stuff on my machines (for our own CMS there is a deplyoment sys= tem maintaining 100, 200 or 1000 instances with s single shell command) However the majority of PHP in the wild is in fact running on these commodit= y frameworks. Especially Wordpress.=20 So if your numbers don't show the benefit there. Or even show a decrease. T= hen it's going to be rough moving forward.=20 Eli