Newsgroups: php.doc,php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.doc:969386545 php.internals:98782 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70379 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2017 08:39:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Apr 2017 08:39:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@ohgaki.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@ohgaki.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ohgaki.net designates 180.42.98.130 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@ohgaki.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 180.42.98.130 ns1.es-i.jp Received: from [180.42.98.130] ([180.42.98.130:43438] helo=es-i.jp) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 72/AD-18853-0393FE85 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 04:39:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 42275 invoked by uid 89); 13 Apr 2017 08:39:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-qt0-f176.google.com) (yohgaki@ohgaki.net@209.85.216.176) by 0 with ESMTPA; 13 Apr 2017 08:39:09 -0000 Received: by mail-qt0-f176.google.com with SMTP id m36so40691829qtb.0; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 01:39:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5qSlpjHJpdOrbMQWCUJCjblzxoYivJd5afUrsNQsoRv6nJ0vvQ NQukN5LxgWpY6SfjPEzSeIxWiPglrw== X-Received: by 10.200.35.27 with SMTP id a27mr1510837qta.2.1492072742458; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 01:39:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.27.179 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 01:38:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1924612862.1298112.1492071094545.JavaMail.zimbra@pieterhordijk.com> References: <0285A0ED-A39F-46C9-A927-3C786F2B256D@koalephant.com> <1924612862.1298112.1492071094545.JavaMail.zimbra@pieterhordijk.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:38:21 +0900 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Pieter Hordijk Cc: Joe Watkins , Andrey Andreev , "internals@lists.php.net" , PHP Documentation ML Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f479acb2393054d0841fb Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Improve hash_hkdf() parameter From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --001a113f479acb2393054d0841fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Peiter, On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Pieter Hordijk wrote: > To be honest I am afraid of ending up with something like the current state > of the session docs. Which are imo way too broad / opinionated, non > English, > contains utterly confusing examples and / or flat out wrong and broken > examples. > Above already resulted in a stream of docs bugs regarding session pages > and a lot of confused readers. > You may consider my opinion as my personal opinion. I don't know of other than me who had that opinion then. After our session discussion, it seems OWASP adopted most of discussed elements in their doc ;) https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Session_Management_Cheat_Sheet Regards, P.S. My opinion is based on RFC 5869. In addition, it's totally nonsense to me to have completely different signature for hash_hkdf(). See the difference hash_hmac() and hash_pbkdf2(). hash_pbkdf2() is older KDF function. I should have mention in the RFC :( -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --001a113f479acb2393054d0841fb--