Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98591 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85527 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2017 19:51:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Mar 2017 19:51:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.43 mail-it0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.43] ([209.85.214.43:37360] helo=mail-it0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5F/04-18522-531EEC85 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 14:51:17 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f43.google.com with SMTP id g138so75246694itb.0 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=GymvLGQ66oH3W4t+mu7ZfuGeNqC3VZMaPTh4D3Qe9E4=; b=nO9cYVwxT+vFp7TmW9oDFlg71ffNAKXoGA46KOI8/dEXZNihg9oE4wBpIedywWW2wZ DXOjEEaiDLvdXEGNoK7wY1gY2ej5NQEs8mx0IZeKvqE7V5fF9Dkl2ScJdEs3e/SUzpU5 FXAYJMWsEEWHbryZQKX2+9xArubaztkV8NTjJoNIx8EkgmydxK5YZCLCj/JLLgS+9e6z KeqpO5DGpSrxIGHzwVkICA34OEpOaymOrTTfs3nNZH7RvLinjif+qzXKjmZm6vX4kFap 6bFFF+hEWwBCyHdX0bW/SQH/AzNrPo4WjGrVYSunPGSBFCyMZqWHf6LUPx2DpCg0d5pk xGGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GymvLGQ66oH3W4t+mu7ZfuGeNqC3VZMaPTh4D3Qe9E4=; b=ah772CbzF+duKFAtj1D6jocQY9LdMvHUxpOFUDNYfI9+NpmSvi5OLqwPgV83auDDd7 uXYQ9BpAnLYgLuXZdhu2IT7RVf2pbeeBulOmq3/GdoggptbLx/7T/JpPgpB91qjdmoud pyNXwxedJ0xp5KzRirGRQx6/C/ZrGBzEqFeXSkOa3DCEJ0ga3u2uVbofuRngnaIMolEy P8o8SdZL2DoZXNQCyoxF6/Yii16+J5kKm/UbSOzA8Esu6ZK5F/P0Cxe7F28EEFQ5fj3d YbYP1/n8hqTwDij/KrwTJxbBZIzzt9s9HK4DqOBIZ0L8WOlMXez63r7gdflFO15qzY6R TqdA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H32133eulfCjQm3In0aXgdG/0+/oLPhuG/BBinaA5xsYfEpJC6V0CfQRHaL+knCgvJQCHZyitJaxP/aVg== X-Received: by 10.107.9.152 with SMTP id 24mr23908077ioj.186.1489953074659; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:51:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.1.202 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:51:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <15fa63cb-6ca6-b809-20b8-5b0e2d357b29@gmx.de> <1304f0ec-2957-2fd0-070e-9f096e3fbb6a@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 13:51:14 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SL0gKwdEZAvmY_rIs6zMDetyxMI Message-ID: To: Jakub Zelenka Cc: PHP internals list , Rowan Collins Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Extended String Types For PDO From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) In On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > > > On 19 Mar 2017 19:01, "Levi Morrison" wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Rowan Collins > wrote: >> On 18/03/2017 13:38, Christoph M. Becker wrote: >>> >>> On 18.03.2017 at 12:29, Marco Pivetta wrote: >>> >>>> Wait, when was the vote opened? I didn't receive any notification of >>>> that >>>> (and therefore didn't vote yet), and we were still telling you in this >>>> thread that there are fundamental conceptual issues with the backing >>>> reasoning. >>> >>> Adam announced the vote on March, 8th, see >>> . The voting result was 8:1, >>> by the way. >>> >> >> I did think it was surprising that this RFC only had 9 votes registered, >> when the one I opened around the same time currently has 29, so I wonder >> if >> Marco wasn't the only one who overlooked it? >> >> However, I received the notification fine, and it was picked up by the SO >> chat bot, https://php-rfc-watch.beberlei.de/, etc, so it may just be that >> a >> lot of people were aware but decided to abstain. >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> Rowan Collins >> [IMSoP] >> >> >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > We currently do not have any provision for requiring at least a > certain amount of votes, but in my opinion it would be prudent to do > so for cases like this. With only *nine* contributors voting and it > not even being unanimous I feel like it shouldn't pass. Anyone who is > gathering notes for a voting rework proposal should take note. > > > I completely disagree with this. If there is not enough votes, it means that > poeple either don't care (possibly don't have time or don't read properly > mailing list) or don't understand the proposed thing. If this is the case then why on earth should it be in core? > I think it should up > to the maintainer to decide in such case and not to block a feature because > not enaugh people is interested in it. If it's up to the maintainer then it didn't need an RFC anyway.