Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98590 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83582 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2017 19:33:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Mar 2017 19:33:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jakub.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jakub.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jakub.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.171 mail-yw0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.171] ([209.85.161.171:35441] helo=mail-yw0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7A/B3-18522-DECDEC85 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 14:33:01 -0500 Received: by mail-yw0-f171.google.com with SMTP id v198so78802410ywc.2 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:33:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=WAtSKfBTk2W4yfguBQtn9zBS5NUcP/KXUnz4ClWswhA=; b=iexlpjoCHBzpVAS6nh/ntgiwkV0LLSnoMfIB5bJ/QXN9c30cm4iSkc4paA6Aw2BTpU dEGZpxs+qA7/VftkhjsmytR85F6AHx9D52SODt8cojvVWSdex8Mql12aPSy79Jc2frfb xhe4C1CgJGfAsfjnWA6y3K38XVmnWwfRh4CMEQavtxMZv/bu4eSmb32Ofr9FHST6oMDO t0NozV19E7ezFh7VPKpKLi2AvyI/wGsVu8cFk4vQYI3gwxxGBVKdXYllI/8WGBXe/fS0 aK+4LJiQEwHZtILbPJYKE1N7LUfhPL4yo+Jh3f7YlRxHG41NZNwfU6B+p22XTuaynzU4 i2WA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WAtSKfBTk2W4yfguBQtn9zBS5NUcP/KXUnz4ClWswhA=; b=Ih3jlqymHICWy/kZjvZY4FRhRR4jcF86pLlCW5F8UlS04Kmki35JYi8pfcNhvzorPi bPQ6XQfQxfmj6CVfBUaGw0WLrd5VPHDV8Lav+lP4QSpckgPyPvDpysK7/FPuJ1wgtV0k fn/TiW4J55WdJ+w+OIYJSuHVYxEcq7j3kpseoPpOA+kDobjSQjDlxGQz0yK2V/8fhqWI YCvjFJe8y7fvWCVJp3jzqzrF6rpIKxkqabckLhUXIynlSQYkKONrM67qc7r8dGt9qthw 38KKvNbzoHEck0509aKZnT3mJIG/n0/x5F5vfaHMZGp5vAW8P2GTyWebVaYrSwY5gTxJ A8UQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1mQ7GO6uDERxH+kAi/LaJRJuqzeWbanHQ+DDrWQB8FJSjfl7WGFslijc49kHUTdlnXws9v1NuV8Yl4nw== X-Received: by 10.129.122.20 with SMTP id v20mr13000968ywc.67.1489951978540; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jakub.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.129.72.201 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.72.201 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:32:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <15fa63cb-6ca6-b809-20b8-5b0e2d357b29@gmx.de> <1304f0ec-2957-2fd0-070e-9f096e3fbb6a@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:32:57 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fFF3bgF0458YwSKGZnOUGutQECM Message-ID: To: Levi Morrison Cc: PHP internals list , Rowan Collins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0a8b9e69d2dc054b1a7a23 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Extended String Types For PDO From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka) --94eb2c0a8b9e69d2dc054b1a7a23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 19 Mar 2017 19:01, "Levi Morrison" wrote: On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On 18/03/2017 13:38, Christoph M. Becker wrote: >> >> On 18.03.2017 at 12:29, Marco Pivetta wrote: >> >>> Wait, when was the vote opened? I didn't receive any notification of that >>> (and therefore didn't vote yet), and we were still telling you in this >>> thread that there are fundamental conceptual issues with the backing >>> reasoning. >> >> Adam announced the vote on March, 8th, see >> . The voting result was 8:1, >> by the way. >> > > I did think it was surprising that this RFC only had 9 votes registered, > when the one I opened around the same time currently has 29, so I wonder if > Marco wasn't the only one who overlooked it? > > However, I received the notification fine, and it was picked up by the SO > chat bot, https://php-rfc-watch.beberlei.de/, etc, so it may just be that a > lot of people were aware but decided to abstain. > > Regards, > > -- > Rowan Collins > [IMSoP] > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php We currently do not have any provision for requiring at least a certain amount of votes, but in my opinion it would be prudent to do so for cases like this. With only *nine* contributors voting and it not even being unanimous I feel like it shouldn't pass. Anyone who is gathering notes for a voting rework proposal should take note. I completely disagree with this. If there is not enough votes, it means that poeple either don't care (possibly don't have time or don't read properly mailing list) or don't understand the proposed thing. I think it shousld up to the maintainer to decide in such case and not to block a feature because not enaugh people is interested in it. But even if we leave it as it is (accept it with only few votes) it is still much better than block it if there is no interest. --94eb2c0a8b9e69d2dc054b1a7a23--