Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98589 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81410 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2017 19:01:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Mar 2017 19:01:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.41 mail-it0-f41.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.41] ([209.85.214.41:36449] helo=mail-it0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/63-18522-B75DEC85 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 14:01:15 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f41.google.com with SMTP id w124so68776943itb.1 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:01:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=v2OlXHg19koi6hctSO5wf90D2pjGc7j9WEutzXlkosI=; b=qW3WLanRDaSKeiN4CFsQzaeQxstAHjpt/RxJy8Vqzkkz4blMiMD1WXH174Mm/qvQna tjC65ClV3Ajy5ZoRc3LVXt518JLx9W1tC2SIXjc11UVyMCLlasZcCIbehNfhznK5HjqI io5Rgxdj4ZmF3xhUmSYfKbWE7z2zQJP9mv1v6K2NtDNCOXqFmljr3dtEqRyAD1fqDL/s UarinZc3pseGEmz+nkRfdv2cDCO+GlJ88uYdM5E6s4d+VzrLInbo03Ldyga0DHk9MP5X 0hn+SZTkzlAw7yYCWqlidgxeJkjqWJo6FAQU6KUAIVU9izKUw8U+SCpCCO4yOd+umDWp iyUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=v2OlXHg19koi6hctSO5wf90D2pjGc7j9WEutzXlkosI=; b=DtJ26nwqPtOnn3o3aBvbTnSXqVGmkA+mP/YMFfNDCK1+jQopWYM5jy57gpsXvZ1ERa /VD7Zin6oxH9SvkgFgpGiFPyXPj63WPy8I4Pszs+g9TsZBlicEXlVGnUWRds3wUN8RDo nAsMrQlyywXu6lIwRJYe+xIZ1AIQ8ih8nsn6m3DqQPVOoyGOvh964LAe0hzNZzeRdS6O NmIy7xtxobei0dudJFt5M4tqZFPgI5SPVBwTwxVKCZlxKpI3aPdW1Emr9NwzbyWcemuU WmeUNl9zQXosvILEmxan9uAldJ9FqAzDu5E8QGVSs961NfnIHdGI+nny+txxSHP3m+iI vC1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3EOrwsrbaS6qypQxdeP4KbsggtU/gRf5VJsoALgmhhU3V9vb3W1fUMzXjdUH1T8ac0IHuoNyzhQroEFA== X-Received: by 10.36.192.4 with SMTP id u4mr6553161itf.112.1489950072750; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.1.202 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1304f0ec-2957-2fd0-070e-9f096e3fbb6a@gmail.com> References: <15fa63cb-6ca6-b809-20b8-5b0e2d357b29@gmx.de> <1304f0ec-2957-2fd0-070e-9f096e3fbb6a@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 13:01:12 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mppnsv1wWVFZekv0liC8BmYpHng Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Extended String Types For PDO From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On 18/03/2017 13:38, Christoph M. Becker wrote: >> >> On 18.03.2017 at 12:29, Marco Pivetta wrote: >> >>> Wait, when was the vote opened? I didn't receive any notification of that >>> (and therefore didn't vote yet), and we were still telling you in this >>> thread that there are fundamental conceptual issues with the backing >>> reasoning. >> >> Adam announced the vote on March, 8th, see >> . The voting result was 8:1, >> by the way. >> > > I did think it was surprising that this RFC only had 9 votes registered, > when the one I opened around the same time currently has 29, so I wonder if > Marco wasn't the only one who overlooked it? > > However, I received the notification fine, and it was picked up by the SO > chat bot, https://php-rfc-watch.beberlei.de/, etc, so it may just be that a > lot of people were aware but decided to abstain. > > Regards, > > -- > Rowan Collins > [IMSoP] > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php We currently do not have any provision for requiring at least a certain amount of votes, but in my opinion it would be prudent to do so for cases like this. With only *nine* contributors voting and it not even being unanimous I feel like it shouldn't pass. Anyone who is gathering notes for a voting rework proposal should take note. And of course RFCs should only be held to the agreed rules of the time, so I'm not saying we should reject this RFC.