Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98553 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87704 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2017 22:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2017 22:51:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=bburnichon@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=bburnichon@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: bburnichon@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.180 mail-wr0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.180] ([209.85.128.180:35581] helo=mail-wr0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B4/94-38004-665C9C85 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:51:18 -0500 Received: by mail-wr0-f180.google.com with SMTP id g10so20634146wrg.2 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:51:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fNMhZM0MjtoGQ1tqZgEuliMJvmdhKJLD5UrneQhu10Y=; b=YnwZolb8Ay1vaAgdLEsNLRmas5utR/MHEs1XpdxAad9X3CAL+j7K8g9+TN4z3E+Keh bFsL4zO+u3DDhaoUOHdzdmzWMTLFzXmjVZXGRSAoMn+WXi25w/MrTEb7PYa78yY/5oU8 Scdrw2ZaSgAvIT4UaTsZz9pFBjyMvb+uawIoiZYlEE8YVNSLczcXuID/KTLpTCIOeh+9 ZYGVwrjTXib0BXtVLfPbE33ooJTPTBt9vWlrKjJj3ECG/KZrgLJj3YRvdRE5Xl2uvgDD Mu/eiss+iG1SC34pE6kgiGJJ/bizOt+UxoyfvgpiUvekFGPqO+Ha4la3m5WpuceWdzPE tKYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fNMhZM0MjtoGQ1tqZgEuliMJvmdhKJLD5UrneQhu10Y=; b=CczeAiMKGdaWEfMcoQgj1ETJjHsby2wRUrjkNpadD/EoRT0HSdfjgHzMqVKDcAnuHE Zp8Siw1+rX0VyFr3Rwd+Nx31xOCuadVX7Pm7XAVfbRFt0c4QE//qxnLPIhXf8yQiAVD+ JmV2OKQFLIXhSF9Ml6q5YITF62HdFn/Mfl8SjVEs0+nGOc5BHOcU9MMn+Qy/u6pLufs0 U3EYeqG87zmUmom7h3muHdnWE9YbkPwiUysurFh1rX/TTURUjksm4ct2hBDr2bZF5NJi Fj+Yt0BkVZd4tN2HiX3YnPDGYIhsZUjgIo5eQ3k2grp2aLbJuJxo0OIX30caHbBRYSQI N+Tw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0uVR9g1+/WFjdkj3DHm7hRdGBgVVYxNehz69BWK+Shs7zNccoWHn5dnSqneXXvTY+/oQ3oLy39085SOQ== X-Received: by 10.223.143.68 with SMTP id p62mr4910601wrb.2.1489618274851; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:51:03 +0000 Message-ID: To: Marco Pivetta , Ryan Pallas Cc: PHP Internals List , Kalle Sommer Nielsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045d57cc1fa0e0054accc86e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Add __toArray() method to objects that would be called on cast to array From: bburnichon@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=C3=AEt_Burnichon?=) --f403045d57cc1fa0e0054accc86e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I was not aware of all that being the only way to distinguish set/unset properties. I do agree with Marco on this point that it would be a BC break. It was not my intention at all and did not foresee that. Up to now, I thought array casting objects was doing the same as for scalar values. I was wrong and I think many other developers around too. On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 at 23:40 Marco Pivetta wrote: > Which is precisely the BC break: such a library would now throw an > exception "unsupported class X" when `__toString` is implemented. Also, > such a library would break silently when this feature is implemented. > > Much like the already very broken `__debugInfo()`, this automatic > type-cast is a giga-Joule footgun. > --f403045d57cc1fa0e0054accc86e--