Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98423 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4704 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2017 12:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Mar 2017 12:05:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=inefedor@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=inefedor@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: inefedor@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.174 mail-wr0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.174] ([209.85.128.174:35998] helo=mail-wr0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7F/72-06022-083FFB85 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:05:20 -0500 Received: by mail-wr0-f174.google.com with SMTP id u108so21739256wrb.3 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 04:05:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=by5zjaInqGlQ4IY0/pWPLvGqNCOA+PvhQLBqufLbIyc=; b=dlH+6En1pdPJJ4Ons2OT9HneCzADFBspOwMiRSEqP1RNOm8J0Oxv/JHmcVweX8DZf8 v2I85qcpKRh3HWPC01X2y8dOBeUxxclgZB+JPqaQuhgiDb2eBD0wmHhKKF6N6f9Nq1lO G+xMjd973VByBxdvTstZ35nGdrAlPbddJ3LazdtzkT9APX5lm5+vKvR8RhCdAcuPlPRE nR9wpGuNs2dKhdjH1edtTRvMSaEQvUXWLEOsiEpZMGH2teehJmkfKdfl7dMbjdCDaddA +7NWttJMaQth9LsfYIfb7sb315FU0rlbbe7krxmiQL7t8aWqe3arxvMNxaATUYgKFx+8 sjvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=by5zjaInqGlQ4IY0/pWPLvGqNCOA+PvhQLBqufLbIyc=; b=iZXkpfs3IvQKt4LHcoaKRR/oFkN4rJ7BwEUac1n1Nfv/4Wd4v0a5xXFJTMV6AV8kDc dkCWdzrxW7ukCq03vMQS057NWQoX4XwHTPjkzZe32psZxkxeD7oI5b/J5pkOXnh38C76 bOYZtJyTw9pmfJgw3dL7psc2v6QEtnfW9tT2J36PHB6xKWFW6l7XjfEequqOg9M/Zo6S bjuA1xr+AxXHuiZ19xSAJQEdnl/j46FQny46IHbwIcoeUiChV1QvGPg/UpUQk62FLmwi I8E3cClNMU8wGRoam96HRubA5NqynQCBzbnKyVAL4MZBs3HwI9zIe2T4Dv879u1uJNbr LzKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mBlnfP/XxXPE9SgnNc8acc19x0eGNBQaucghgXar3dg1vUS0DL0St5/4Bo0/h5nA== X-Received: by 10.223.128.99 with SMTP id 90mr5341154wrk.157.1488974717535; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 04:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.2.46] (ec2-52-30-110-128.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com. [52.30.110.128]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o52sm3900762wrb.51.2017.03.08.04.05.14 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Mar 2017 04:05:14 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:05:13 +0000 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <47A3616C-70F5-4E7C-AB7E-1B87F8E93206@gmail.com> References: <0e19e041-4834-c24a-4239-036ab38fbda1@php.net> <314dd971-3a1f-4727-9074-ac0b4089ec97@php.net> To: Sebastian Bergmann X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] generating code from AST From: inefedor@gmail.com (Nikita Nefedov) > On 8 Mar 2017, at 08:49, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >=20 > Am 07.03.2017 um 11:33 schrieb Derick Rethans: >> Because installing an extension is too hard? >=20 > No. To ensure that userland functionality that is based on compiler > internals (token stream, abstract syntax tree, bytecode) does not fall = out > of sync with the compiler. >=20 > We already have an extension that is built-in and enabled-by-default = for > the token stream. Why not have one for the abstract syntax tree and > bytecode representations? To be honest, that=92s exactly what we might want to avoid. Last time = someone wanted to do actual improvements to our lexing they were stopped = because changing tokens would mean breaking code that relies on = `token_get_all()` which is a core extension user land function. It might be though that it=92s only the problem with lexing and it = should not be a problem for AST because it is, ahem, abstract.=