Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98419 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60667 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2017 19:51:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Mar 2017 19:51:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.173 mail-wr0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.173] ([209.85.128.173:33520] helo=mail-wr0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C2/B4-27071-44F0FB85 for ; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:51:32 -0500 Received: by mail-wr0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u48so9080994wrc.0 for ; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:51:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oEA0XsjeFM64pokdDzcxh0a1C/rpBdMLk1XtV+nCasE=; b=I7AvPOPWBEm7axRNp+QyUp3j59J0LK8Q0ax4+4oBLeQq0LWynRqAmqoA6kksy48jKu l0F7gMZ08v1/OtrBIEjndepYLG/RJH4dU04r87ZHUNIBR3DkJbUdgeJHdU/r6kRuyk5a Uk1ZOWak55VfvcEOXvHWSKwKsZ8zajJOa4KlreNl6CkKEo2BUV49Mp67bWJiI3Mc9ERc h2i8ogANN+FiF9BjreeGQIgYH4MwI/Hm6FBsawSacwrQWnYKPbJ2ruGn16AfcWbeNgMa p+ScngSoFOm05Y2HCYPirNwX/pgrkvzH5nuPuzbWvtDHP5k68LnWex2KggPNZyTakiqT DZ3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oEA0XsjeFM64pokdDzcxh0a1C/rpBdMLk1XtV+nCasE=; b=Cg8iamRTc8UeoNL79vVpQyt6K7kBJCWsNeJcNwpo66WgSNXvPSGKW46JwZqyBohXM/ QEybqRujr77BPU7yEav90KbCm9qijDYEQgQhTiuTsfby/e22nk63nWAyBM/5U8H9arnf Cvz285p/YFbUR1Lgs69ujQG8M6JjA1tltDP8bs2v2aqTA63p08C7/oatjRUOxZ4ff4Xo jFZAPdQO0ckIctA3rSZdj8zSM5Fh7NDwpV9a3iXLK4sranBAk6kpK8O/PFLJelpObiT8 PRETvhSlW1VUAukyfNQojJSfzTQbsmm9ABbh8/M6+1aID4v160unU8FFA00rNdmqS5GH giSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39n83hQuMC7QYxEiSQte/Xxr6weIIHMrsLB21hCKvbm4gKMe+wlXgRz0BhKj1Yi+Sg== X-Received: by 10.223.134.229 with SMTP id 34mr1850292wry.104.1488916288319; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2a00:23c4:4bd2:6e00:f56d:46cb:f240:6354? ([2a00:23c4:4bd2:6e00:f56d:46cb:f240:6354]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z21sm1239020wrz.31.2017.03.07.11.51.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:51:27 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <0e19e041-4834-c24a-4239-036ab38fbda1@php.net> <314dd971-3a1f-4727-9074-ac0b4089ec97@php.net> Message-ID: <5e89d407-a6c2-9293-17c9-8fadf1d262ec@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:51:25 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] generating code from AST From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 07/03/2017 10:33, Derick Rethans wrote: >> Having a bytecode disassembler in core would also be nice, yes. > Because installing an extension is too hard? It sounds like reinventing > the wheel. Not necessarily reinventing it, just pre-attaching it to the carriage ;) By which I mean, there's no reason "bundling a VLD-esque extension" couldn't mean "bundling VLD". But as Dave said: > However I'm sure there are valid reasons why VLD (or similar) have not been > included; and would wonder if those would also end up applying to the AST Basically, we're back to the age-old discussion of exactly what are the pros and cons of "bundling" an extension, given the way PHP is packaged by vendors in practice. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]