Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:98308 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19777 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2017 20:35:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Feb 2017 20:35:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.169 mail-pf0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.169] ([209.85.192.169:35895] helo=mail-pf0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E8/92-01562-67BB4A85 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:35:02 -0500 Received: by mail-pf0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 189so33925052pfu.3 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:35:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lxP5BVqVbrIx62bUo70wpOmKKR/2n6JdV13Dj5ZvDBY=; b=gNTL7vpzjlD+RGr6fDGG7953CZd8Q9xk3IDpU6FFkBnrGm8axFpdOLdzcdmUi2bWW3 8NNRfverD6tRVjSNkz27L+CxgagDAjt7WtbCQtlk33ihRm/p6CJzPCkGpdMPEgk7ZCqH nXa+Kg1StM4JiZcnee5PpkZOj+ntho51Z4dur9PZJrQ9YO2InlUry1hOHqHNBsD27UPK PG5CrMn7ngEHXHVd/wxpiasO0bFLR0rjFGrdRQ5g3VTMVRZfn+9vf/LU+xhNcB5SHKki enz8PIfkbN+haMbOwLwMzVpxqUWpunil7p7Y6YHcmSkEgrCV+8Tx2uzjv5zBGrqSG/Qp MwrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lxP5BVqVbrIx62bUo70wpOmKKR/2n6JdV13Dj5ZvDBY=; b=CMza7CA7kpzmDbgp+bGkntZLQNNNfOlO8elUkZyZs8x8AbEUNVVAH9cqoNf0WZTXUv 53yFBitEx82uJ//BpRDPsiU9XQrU4JxBSy2+6+LlerMZ3mpob1bWtOTIyZKoEeXbFgh9 IjWpO90XIoIEzX6AnLEtBY6zLI6OKKETyRgOYYo91/EBzQoVpw8dqjTYBgDELTlfqfzZ WSduUCMKRwk3HyxdleFEo4bNrEZGz0nnlIyeBqI4Fc45Qrz2/ldxOn/OpbibbWfbcGie X+sxJBximcns0ZwtVChROW0VDyv4BaCnAvUf5nPFCkR1vgyXb4QeRCdA3VyGCrhZXIp3 FsKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39nOrOXtTltgb4AdvH2f86+s3ueXu86Kyy39Fg72Fopl6TjLQUIlpmEUdZ7A4o2avQ== X-Received: by 10.99.42.78 with SMTP id q75mr40519172pgq.144.1487190899108; Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air-2238.local (108-233-206-104.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.233.206.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i73sm9123041pgc.62.2017.02.15.12.34.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:34:58 -0800 (PST) To: Andrey Andreev References: Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:35:14 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Binary String Deprecation From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > While that's an understandable argument, what happens if we flip it? Is > there any benefit to keeping it? Yes. Not having to change it :) Please note that the barrier for changing something, especially in a mature software product like PHP, especially in a core language, is way way higher than not changing. TO make a change, substantial benefit should be shown. To not make a change, it is enough that this benefit is not shown. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com