Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97979 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28415 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2017 22:10:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2017 22:10:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.51 mail-wm0-f51.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.51] ([74.125.82.51:36031] helo=mail-wm0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 23/04-28703-BD37A885 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:10:35 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f51.google.com with SMTP id c85so91905353wmi.1 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:10:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y3q3ypRwwKLJtvXdptEeoa8HgexVvd2GYzPgGZy9mDI=; b=V6sjqklVfVPqqgMhqv9rZxS+T6BUeKvWBs421qPlKkfYY9r+2F6EWUoE96Gtka75jt +9LgTaaqG4ZjZ8fdKyiaS4Ao1jjPb1X5vuIUrXjSASSQYUmMuJ8H7bYCPPTO/QXd407L YMLjaf2yDI40psTifY0t4EKnjHoeM6FrOAtdbCusW7wBh8xQO/YLM4iEPpGGQsLfx0bg SkO6FmCblFfkdRmgPRFQ3m3TlkjFQ6YjKNa+dBNCKobEdQEPL2qIXbi0F00NThtqS8ej RdAytF5jWnmdC619QtU6neD7EJDZwPAyRr3rQIpzTFSCCDOD7kcDK4cOgQrjaY/tQfKg wwKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y3q3ypRwwKLJtvXdptEeoa8HgexVvd2GYzPgGZy9mDI=; b=myvdi5SHUAtd0Sl5yiR6cofwOWXCKu1QIeMWenCP8R8SgWQXQe/eC7ZFVjiSrkTnwK 1dVOjOuHFqxLW2/XM5YDU+GSfrQiChP7FoaMfep/061uYxR9OGMgvckWE2Qq9GZnf6Ke dair666PHcm0562PS5dO5VYEdt9+/3nizUXbF2HmIWvv/oFl+Ooyt8Ma5Taw7PGlSgV+ eBBUWDiO7QyNiwFn9GJsBy0/JzqzTMe+jLS7RDfVRCdgdLXHBFi9P3Taew1NudInfwEZ /929txkFjX16aEgs+kc/EGby8K5dNSLfESh23OvJBYW9bz4675zg06cG2nQwwPHERf9M n+DA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ5HKLN/n0x31WxE2+AMAzDWSRCLFuWvphzUm3tUoPKk4CxuDQuvgzqWZnVtzMfLA== X-Received: by 10.223.131.193 with SMTP id 59mr4626102wre.186.1485468632666; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2a00:23c4:4bd2:6e00:1f4:3b13:4a91:3fa? ([2a00:23c4:4bd2:6e00:1f4:3b13:4a91:3fa]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 10sm4628838wrw.13.2017.01.26.14.10.31 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:10:31 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <24.D0.04124.AABB9885@pb1.pair.com> Message-ID: <5a31cbac-96aa-9cd5-b1f7-ed83248b2baa@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:10:10 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Not autoloading functions From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 26/01/2017 20:23, Rasmus Schultz wrote: > Either way, guys, here's a preliminary RFC: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/use-static-function Just to pick up on one thing you mention on there, declaring static classes. This has been discussed before, and an RFC went to a vote a couple of years ago and failed: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abstract_final_class Part of the reasoning there was that people should be using namespaced functions instead - although that just leads us back to the autoloading debate... Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]