Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97978 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26863 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2017 22:06:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2017 22:06:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.44 mail-wm0-f44.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.44] ([74.125.82.44:38468] helo=mail-wm0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1F/A3-28703-3E27A885 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:06:29 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id r144so107947097wme.1 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:06:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oICvJcSG5vwrgWfZz5FCOJLVn2vnpBRvQx3SWYQMhSg=; b=RnmVAhf1sLL2sRPhdwErbqGDMDwuf2yTFwbFm1blNB9SuU9ZyBIb87ax3jta5Hpg0A NRHTuQBFp+V86acta7cz/wg4TOSSIH+UujGM/jOOJF9V6ECeJ4oqQFvxNWoVDeEJJPvu 2KQM0FRkTe5Ip8+vQuVs8HJdTobS8XAPJmA3WbV6zARisxdD7raCf/Yvt2ggvsc6acF9 z3J+ro8xdSZac4JvBaAetSijLWMFGwduX3RHEVP+M6jSGOLBgJ79hMISZu3vqf9qdTi1 13TNQROmifUv3rNxMbSFZy8992L4u74z5cASBSKyZxmP/GVdztRxHcKeeuHWsc7cOvpS zBzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oICvJcSG5vwrgWfZz5FCOJLVn2vnpBRvQx3SWYQMhSg=; b=XnfvKDGflDMrQ2gNPjpGThIO4/A8Fsdxpn0mbQOXlrq4DLCTEL2Nkm6vUo2Jrn3sL7 7wBx1RbVk+iRb19lJVY+N1VNAhSdTxMFTyT1UbFi7By+kqNv16MCxxt3tkem6K3c4wiw phjgFzc4QZAqMxN7AoLmfPobLkEozsnDv7GY7uWPXzyqYtXWojswFffQ+wzeuKwyA2bW 5eAaH4LHtdZVUvz5QAFYN5IorURV+a6tg6F1Xv3hiwS6RJ0lyv8VZY8A/mPR//9++J5V o7sTEUOkJK23LyeO/n0Nne6dl0doFWH9vS+SvI85l9Bj46MLPQryb7rZJp/Ug/ygB5Pr zAhg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJB6qh5sy5AqzNTdj6VFzER8JRQt+BbglqaMQDID53Xh2oIRTQ7K9dLxND8SuOd2w== X-Received: by 10.223.165.87 with SMTP id j23mr5567622wrb.79.1485468384513; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2a00:23c4:4bd2:6e00:1f4:3b13:4a91:3fa? ([2a00:23c4:4bd2:6e00:1f4:3b13:4a91:3fa]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a13sm633028wma.0.2017.01.26.14.06.22 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:06:23 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <24.D0.04124.AABB9885@pb1.pair.com> Message-ID: <24d1a358-4b66-0d61-2811-e23eaf287441@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:06:01 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Not autoloading functions From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 26/01/2017 21:37, Walter Parker wrote: > Why are functions useless when using Composer? Is it because functions > can't be autoloaded? > Is this about getting functions to load without having to stick them in > classes that can be autoloaded? Yes, and yes. The subject line of this thread is an allusion to a conversation that resurfaces every now and then but always hits one roadblock or another. In short: the majority of PHP applications and frameworks are based around autoloading rather than long lists of explicit dependencies; functions can be inside a namespace; but such a function must be explicitly defined before use. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]