Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97877 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20351 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2017 14:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jan 2017 14:15:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=leight@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=leight@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: leight@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.46 mail-lf0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.46] ([209.85.215.46:36454] helo=mail-lf0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A3/75-00729-5E9C0885 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:15:02 -0500 Received: by mail-lf0-f46.google.com with SMTP id z134so37409073lff.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:15:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pN9nR4QKxrPz1l3YeZ5DRe01evuBlnTtdj26TerP+Q8=; b=lLyxDQP5ZNQE4IhLR3tQfWZqMuOq8M/4rX7b4I5/YDCJOE8n5oSzatOczlKsvD+tBn 7jPXfY9HncWSWtWMSLj2InGLPfhK/KzwY13tnkj3gupaDVwwkhlnl4ZrYNw1LOyYRQmI aC5qFAUkxD2Fyi1oV7xzJZOmapt/P+uxNxbGeuGZzEviQj+/L/SfcxkjmeALVjyY0+uq amChUh4FZqn4vKJ1dxLfRupnYthX1ODYmWJ3ERjfRsZuKM4GSKYPcAJRuYtnVLH8TsZc 7hVn489kv3Nu/+7ej+bNhl1Dchz8uyFTMdZTI6QSkWXjNKSLFDgZpEn94wneUS1EJyCW l8MA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pN9nR4QKxrPz1l3YeZ5DRe01evuBlnTtdj26TerP+Q8=; b=pfD0dQOS6vg8VZ7JKymiXDPCsf+l5aGyUJXB+Euue2JfBDTLf0Rt2Uz/owX9XgYUq9 10wnMrs4XYAuzj1johiPOZcT0+YOzpayaOoyEngENLAJZk8sDq9DpZv4sue6hkPMNlHv ZjL4NJ0xx0XCw0C4otDjEQDLVmFG71xdQSi4HSF37tQmBTjrybR81xKQdRLbs/akZ0cY zj1ubKMgsOD9XBTcH8RjWYLcszJ6hSJKZU/6DTGzlyYZjEpQDaEgS/dJBaicFh6wgLUl 48FpiZrOOjpTtcvSaHUNgDuDxIRay6DOsxSX8SwLvW3mDM8ccsa4lL9HOMJIOb1Gxr8w rKxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLmEG95LACNDBSqbkIyoniiGOG+jD9/9I4POECflRprn6dxgYQO84nnqqBT2hP5Xx/+6StqAoiZL+a+dA== X-Received: by 10.25.15.68 with SMTP id e65mr3238111lfi.117.1484835298931; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:14:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.193.83 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:14:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <71c26cd6df6f59e76dafd31647852c2e@koti.fimnet.fi> <142a3537a99809cf23d78e0eaadc3aef@gmail.com> <7a359bb08b0ad8b046534c15492cec91@gmail.com> <8cfe7a3ea5a05fc3e5347e9af848ada0@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:14:57 +0000 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Lauri_Kentt=C3=A4?= , Nikita Popov , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed From: leight@gmail.com (Leigh) On 19 January 2017 at 11:46, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > How many of us are willing to allow very weak mt_rand fallback? > This could be RFC vote option, if there are few. Everyone who cares about stability. I agree, if you want to introduce breaking changes, this needs to go to RFC. Therefore the simplest option seems to be DON'T introduce breaking changes. Wouldn't you agree?