Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97578 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42418 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2017 12:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2017 12:39:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pthreads@pthreads.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pthreads@pthreads.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pthreads.org from 209.85.210.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pthreads@pthreads.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.181 mail-wj0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.181] ([209.85.210.181:33474] helo=mail-wj0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3D/55-31343-B1332785 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 07:39:57 -0500 Received: by mail-wj0-f181.google.com with SMTP id kq3so9413281wjc.0 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:39:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pthreads-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lDSGhRRcd2Tu4kEDREpY08zwZOePUtyc4A1cz/TNv7Y=; b=QrVuHOB1CF+wlrVN7CscGwMbXiMBNTNX+IbcH5v1jxz92LNMIrESZ51pLKb+fOVejg BUKzakGu5aoF0g5L4V/dKbmepj9ewHQeikncVqibuFJKcuRH8viDBFPwLOriSQptWhlc BQlVY0TEskk4k7GmT8EgCNGQauqspb4JQK11IKpMlXL0ZNtuGx5ba2QagjpjgnivvLzb WTu36JewaoeVIRWK5ZJxR/W2ZmRsZR01tgheYUA7Q/JzGWmS0SA9i16g0WVneezOF0CM 5ISTm64vDk8oFDBJnNGQktgvmrbqWPYLhxoBhQa4PcbJFkp+SHBnDejM/EUmY4JwzPlr jcPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lDSGhRRcd2Tu4kEDREpY08zwZOePUtyc4A1cz/TNv7Y=; b=EBJgUMjbgqy0+ccT8yAyBxSn3IUtGsG7CuWpQnk/AQaib62dx5hDHvIMP0PBlgI6ye vcAFNI34HnvaqcQ7aF+/svS7LyFUEnJS02EFJR2DmH8GruvNQJSinOhn3+rP8W/Qmu3U +N5EWG6nkSPCpyHSUSN3CyMRk58ZqSEtoKSzbWmorAV4Of5mGYSQOvaR/Ql7OyHNtwKX U4du5k4qr3FmfDa+mh0hkgT+1sIeF+lleVXLYBTRAPrw/a3cmGSC0ECPlWx5+CDxy9fR w/6e2zBS/glEKekKb9nlsivLbeePtRqTYw4+ag45Lr5ho8XJxHWrkMApvE2cj+eUSPVL uUeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJqNeRY3266iXpBaepq/ZSRCYfYvOgIjPOG3F5ZDWVKzfjUgRrnDoclLkdyOUgD9TE6uq9zXKS2VnnfnA== X-Received: by 10.194.188.9 with SMTP id fw9mr63989721wjc.213.1483879192912; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:39:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.176.4 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 04:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [86.178.168.203] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 12:39:52 +0000 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7beb90982f09a50545948c1b Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup From: pthreads@pthreads.org (Joe Watkins) --047d7beb90982f09a50545948c1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Afternoon Nikita, ACK, we should of course use appropriate status ... I have only closed a few so far before I thought a discussion is probably in order, so no harm done. Cheers Joe On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Jan 8, 2017 7:47 AM, "Joe Watkins" wrote: > > Morning internals, > > Some of you may have noticed that a few of us have put considerable effort > into cleanup of pull requests on github, these are now manageable and I'm > quite confident that we will be able to merge pull requests in a timely > manner, and stay on top of it. > > When it comes to bugsnet, there are feature requests and bugs that have > been open for more than 10 years, and nobody has talked about them in about > as long, they may concern defunct versions of PHP, or removed extensions or > SAPIs: These numbers in the thousands. > > It's very difficult (impossible) to see a good reason for these to be open, > they are not useful at all. > > With normal support for 5 ended, now is the perfect time to cleanup > bugsnet. If we can get the numbers down to something manageable, we have a > reasonable expectation to stay on top of them. > > I think anyone that has been waiting a number of years for a response to a > feature request deserves to know that it is not reasonably happening, and > that there are better ways of trying to get a feature in than opening > yet-another-feature-request on bugsnet. > > I think any bug report opened against 4 and not updated is useless. > > I think anything with a patch attached targeting 5 is useless, regardless > of age; they should be encouraged to open a pull request on github against > a supported branch. > > I'd like to hear what others think about cleaning up bugsnet, what criteria > we might use for a mass cleanup. > > After a mass cleanup, I/we will go in and start working through whatever is > left, but 5k mostly irrelevant bugs is too much to ask, it would take me > months and months to work through those, time that nobody has, or will ever > have. > > Cheers > Joe > > > As a general note: By convention the "Closed" state is only for bugs that > have been fixed or feature requests that have been implemented. If > something is not going to be fixed / implemented one of Won't Fix, Not a > Bug or Suspended should be used, as appropriate. > > Nikita > --047d7beb90982f09a50545948c1b--