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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:42:11 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] - Immutable classes and properties
From: marijic.silvio@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Silvio_Mariji=C4=87?=)

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2016-12-12 15:14 GMT+01:00 Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>:

> On 12 December 2016 09:11:17 GMT+00:00, "Silvio Mariji=C4=87" <
> marijic.silvio@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Regarding my proposal above, since copy() would essentially operate
> >only on
> >immutable objects, why not put it only there. So you would be able to
> >make
> >a call like this one $immutable->copy(array $args); or
> >$this->copy(array
> >$args); depending on whether you are inside let's say with* method or
> >outside of the object.
>
> If users of the object can set arbitrary (public) properties this way,
> then you've thrown away a bunch of the free encapsulation the immutable
> keyword gave you in the first place. What you get is an enforced
> copy-on-write, where you can set the properties to whatever state you lik=
e,
> just not using normal object passing semantics. That's very different fro=
m
> what the RFC shows, which are properties which are publicly readable, but
> whose state is exclusively controlled by the class (and its descendants).
>
>
> PS The rule on this mailing list is too always reply *below* the text
> you're replying to.


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>
I understand that, but I think we'll have to meet in the middle. How would
you handle situation where for one little change you have to manually
recreate not so trivial object with a lot of arguments ? I don't think that
should be a deal breaker for this RFC but I do agree that we should try to
find solution to bridge that gap and put that aside in a other rfc.


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Silvio Mariji=C4=87
Software Engineer
2e Systems

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