Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97187 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53214 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2016 18:24:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2016 18:24:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.178 mail-pf0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.178] ([209.85.192.178:33889] helo=mail-pf0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AB/99-21589-9E188385 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2016 13:24:41 -0500 Received: by mail-pf0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c4so15976497pfb.1 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2016 10:24:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JsfgxThPBW0+kjctmb+cKnAqmfS2GkHjaBQVgBbmiIg=; b=a6JNxIvKT50WO0SI3lkLQHqU72u/J39hJ6ZHihAaeMCmwdBpqpJMWrEoDrn/en+Gcs ziwoo6TlKET62v5qGHbsyL32kXkgYwttiVykO3XTX6RHctFajBwnrE67+RLYJeAH2bID SjzbxuNwsw3MCIfgHE6L3T1SI4uzm0Nhkuhk1NJUr/Y4xx8kXs5/WhPiiWoNYjq1BCFZ UcdQkDwmJ5YPhpzR52stIKJvg+0twYcVMLyE2GLY/0wamjytXD0lH+8ENA+1K0c3ywiS YyPWOGZ01DzGQKZKDoSWyy0ZabeRiZseZGzPc0Tyy6scW4tGWH/+b7ret1JwWeTon3e4 pp0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JsfgxThPBW0+kjctmb+cKnAqmfS2GkHjaBQVgBbmiIg=; b=RSlV3yn+OPfde5qud/Bcbda8BF0EXv0yl4ImLuXarlaoDR/TddGFWOB+Vhpq70siMj Tf/HuRW8sr6ZVcJrgjC79Ld+CuAL6n4zc7GKU21VdWPIGqxYU/UeV6/z62By9HRgG+R4 pCGMea2tuNz3VWHknmf74NTEdeg3SixbCAV2F2wK55Og+vRPgP3AYwq3I5EiJowWAGXX SIOHq/weSpJIjKWG8WkWloDP+Y4CdgNwes6Rjtba8rtao6cfdTymWHCtXzwpBcDKaVpu RvEur1y6UT4yJaLKy7nrBSpYfeuPSpSHbOVk/Mk1UHHC6jhKYNr0csm5cUzzWZajKfS9 63ew== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01f5+sCNP9owMVXoeHYzZvj3YH7kmK5iqsB9alDgKSZlLGYoxe5FCYTH9iGFKhemQ== X-Received: by 10.99.173.68 with SMTP id y4mr16461610pgo.54.1480098278833; Fri, 25 Nov 2016 10:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air.lan (108-233-206-104.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.233.206.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a68sm51491607pgc.31.2016.11.25.10.24.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 25 Nov 2016 10:24:38 -0800 (PST) To: Joe Watkins , Pierre Joye References: Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 10:24:36 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Abolish 50%+1 Votes From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Sorry, but yes. > > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting > >> There'd be a minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the > language is brought up on this list and when it's voted on is required. > Other RFCs might use a smaller timeframe, but it should be at least a week. I must say I don't understand Joe's position here. Where's the fire? Why can't we afford two-week or three-week discussion? How does it make sense to make a huge change in voting rules after tiniest amount of discussion possible? If anything, we should take as long as it requires for such things, not try to rush it through. I think minimal discussion time is way unadequate for such thing. It's not adding optional argument for an obscure PDO function, it's changing the rules for the whole project. I see absolutely no reason not to let the discussion unfold and be as long as it needs to be. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com