Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97112 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90545 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2016 03:50:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Nov 2016 03:50:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.177 mail-pf0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.177] ([209.85.192.177:33604] helo=mail-pf0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 05/D5-40890-F90C3385 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2016 22:50:56 -0500 Received: by mail-pf0-f177.google.com with SMTP id d2so1525442pfd.0 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:50:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y1MzvZoEw4vn/QlJlgTX1bgSfVMLYe/j/fiT+DODElQ=; b=UuRDzPVdPYMWEsMn9iuLuET7uQYicxxZvhK0/3LzdZwgZZaOxr6hCkRKYBNyRcKvWr cSrnH9tE26tkd6juOE0VZUm/5apOn5WXVfPmNjrTDMD7WCF4cwoyIFH0wkeWZIbyGFqJ CgCjbdOpH8Vu/pqDb90eETLjZtbp5OTSrTG8BicrMpH+ZV6E2vzqwroCK3zhiWoys+w0 xAOYxBTfsaIs5ZQuRePkInLqNkKX6UgDddAhKRLUH7j4rTtNFVJV95O/qyGl5SfNbPDP okor8AqFJHSK3tCUo+2lFdpolPVfiX8ajPtiYC+NI3zPzq0qd9AI3FKGGWdh75GK6s3q iLAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y1MzvZoEw4vn/QlJlgTX1bgSfVMLYe/j/fiT+DODElQ=; b=ijhrkZSXSOcuIBJxRYRZ6zIHxnjaq/+rxwUFf834BrPnHu5+GGJ0YL9QexjyfC6SFB czX2vH2LfA7AhNzWOIRu68oE8Mw9zihHDJLhcK1FRQMj1TygTWLy2k4+KgcJOHRW+QCC TqoiVgR+Vu5lcMzER3MG4fG8Wky8M9GvyB9N6QzLV7gMskp5BCobg+ynA2LRcxUFQzEp Wj8aX/SOxZGm83nR0xNvirjC3FmMEs1+tHnHYEGrMyO1emsdHBhpHoy8S7uQynCG2ehc X319dibB9KXJcQTTqk12sdMO0dqJeHz3XMtJOFmvv2/B/Pl9s1JyeKT6/lJa7Q6ItqY0 1kwg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03JwMBgdqgqDn9YKidOIkfX0m5JFvClognDf45fDvDpUpaKPm2/nn8gSprxK8+0YA== X-Received: by 10.98.59.154 with SMTP id w26mr22598215pfj.112.1479786653450; Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air-3.local (108-233-206-104.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.233.206.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q2sm22690182pga.8.2016.11.21.19.50.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:50:52 -0800 (PST) To: Adam Baratz , "internals@lists.php.net" References: Message-ID: <816f88ae-52aa-9784-1780-e9727be2c319@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:50:51 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Debugging PDO Prepared Statement Emulation From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! On 11/16/16 3:06 PM, Adam Baratz wrote: > Hi, > > No, you're not misreading the subject line. I began working on the docs for > the previously accepted proposal and became uncomfortable with the > approach. I think it will be better to integrate this info into > PDOStatement::debugDumpParams(). It will let me do the testing I want to do > without introducing a new API, which was the primary concern expressed in > the previous discussion. > > I reverted the code I'd committed, updated the RFC with an example, and > reset the vote: > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/debugging_pdo_prepared_statement_emulation I don't think this is how RFC process is supposed to work. If the proposal is not mature enough, it should be discussed or worked on more. Committing it, then reverting it and immediately starting another vote is definitely not what should be done. It looks highly irregular and suggests that this is not mature enough. Also, jumping right into the vote is definitely not how it should work. If anything, more discussion period is needed to see why the approach that was accepted is not good enough, and to ensure the errors made on the previous one are not repeated. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com