Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97089 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55806 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2016 15:31:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Nov 2016 15:31:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tendoaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tendoaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tendoaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.181 mail-ua0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.181] ([209.85.217.181:35528] helo=mail-ua0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F2/00-55435-BB1C1385 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 10:31:08 -0500 Received: by mail-ua0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 12so208223331uas.2 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 07:31:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7j4mfQHPhdDVXcW/+am/CpjCyXFQpPkYYI+sVVHgG9E=; b=xw1vNkGpTkoDTM6v197GK0CVv5O5CdRZTQfviPaZ9/kE33gX8PTN0/a4VJmaHEX+i6 viO9xqoK98/y5wHkG3BtqaDCfLoXA9E+7LwnBIuh8en+hIaXhEM4F7y8bKbX8ry/0wEA r+4pWoToYoud+yZi2IpTLW6VPejqHGe+kh83LmojxmGYdot5g9StJOjWHIDxvlEuDsDi xwl369JTtn95oLKtYgtNPZCWOXSEl7OY2yhEqiSB7a1k6aVoFWK25JedrSpe1Fo81RSU ljSrnH3D6saE0UPCZCJb4hsH6Gn/TnnEjX7gG/VQVEwvyHCg2zJyJFYQ2pZMFoLLJErD w2cA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7j4mfQHPhdDVXcW/+am/CpjCyXFQpPkYYI+sVVHgG9E=; b=Bd0xzU0mPOOCcHSNLJ/3MQIBpEX+r6sxn/7hDF4HED5P96u0cSf8QE82Bwddr6RBqg NuiIbZg5q/LiZfubOxkd3xs96WBS6nSC3O8hlsV7/oAdjcpr+eESXz7woj+7c3BZJ15m euQlQdNKIeXcX0OAypv55gsDLhFUmr45mnoUGBAYGzvQUlWM5v2Ay8tk5aXoIGS6urH1 4rNX0O+MpXjtUoWJkQcxnR6xHVdHb8Wylwpa3g0aDeGPg0jdemZJwgpazxJ7JVFI+RGN 6fMcIbuNcEMyfsZjA7ZuZgZ3ogqNUD6ItU4ZNxFIJzRbImHkIEOsuZlPegjLYtQtKtJm qIHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00z64UAqwmCWn40RMcjQIkRfnAnxkk7vHZMDcBwVuLTgJ+pFDZIC0lY7M4Q4KQVkEbwvdmxiANzXuqWPw== X-Received: by 10.176.86.25 with SMTP id y25mr4880185uaa.57.1479655864484; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 07:31:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.78.26 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 07:31:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 10:31:03 -0500 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Joe Watkins , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045dd5ee31489f0541bd3a29 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Abolish 50%+1 Votes From: tendoaki@gmail.com (Michael Morris) --f403045dd5ee31489f0541bd3a29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Otherwise - it's a simple majority (>50%, or even just the option that got > the most votes in case of a 3-way or 4-way vote). > There are better options for choices of 3 or more than the most votes system and I strongly recommend that they be used. Allow me to present an example. Suppose we needed to include new functionality in PHP, and there where three libraries available to provide it. A is the oldest and most mature but hasn't been maintained in awhile. B is a less stable fork but has more active maintenance. A & B have the same API. C is the newest cutting edge version, but has a different API. A vote is held. 32% for A, 31% B and 37% for C. C wins in this scenario because the majority was split across the two similar choices A & B. If ranked choice ballots were used in this scenario B would be eliminated on the first round and the second choices of those ballots would be examined with an end result of 58% for A, 42% for C, meaning most of the supporters of B would settle for A but didn't really like C. A lot of the bad blood in American politics can be directly linked to this problem - splitting a majority in 3 or more way races. Political parties arose specifically to prevent this splitting, but its a case that the cure is worse than the disease. I don't think PHP is in any danger of devolving into this sort of acrimony, but it's still worth avoiding the problem entirely with ranked choice balloting where appropriate. --f403045dd5ee31489f0541bd3a29--