Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97032 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93534 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2016 12:11:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Nov 2016 12:11:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pthreads@pthreads.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pthreads@pthreads.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pthreads.org from 209.85.223.178 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pthreads@pthreads.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.178 mail-io0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.178] ([209.85.223.178:33737] helo=mail-io0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CA/50-25966-65140385 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 07:11:05 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id j65so5736595iof.0 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 04:11:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pthreads-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vVoZ/djwImtIkbmIrPUaz5eSFZyqkrlwZq8A8LDNgFI=; b=O2TRLzSoeTD+D+OkZaa3l8ev7T2vILQqfs6uiNNQlcX6BfjxDsBmGy0MNYEhelREVA F7gnyp4Gs1q9eiGGXyaGX6vRt36ayrJms3apZyx1oV6esi4XOrXcSGPQeg2E2lekTzOV psuc4n5uxgb1LiAOVCirqPr8/4KELXWj5v+xi4gypoRRgqlqsJTV+d6KnQ0ZeEQqXuqs IlOwN1V0qkaYgPlcLApI9GsKzsrquiR/D/V78YAtbjBGQPoVx14py7M5j/CyfAj/uVTf 47hgvAW1Z6DaU3ul91fKe53/vAI1F9weQpkySpm/DUVU95KcLFBxbNTljVyLdadToPnJ NDKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vVoZ/djwImtIkbmIrPUaz5eSFZyqkrlwZq8A8LDNgFI=; b=TnNfCc6WSSDqlLSLqJIjN0ZOIDHrXYU7igij2F0S3mxkevmiku4Za6DbrjVmcOnrjR wRUeyWuTJOIj+j2rIBslLPuL0qpp12dHRijeD0TcwJSNy1vx/kPQgaWZlCioU3ad2DjY cpdeWJ64iHTR2P66bVkvzlq0OtXia4/lJp6NMPKSL9zsh3OI5TZy+2P0e3YA611vtCFc ruPvcSUmt6Uly8RqzlWRgypf7mxtoI9/RPwPy3fql2Fd3iJXqmclXgfkWHmrJ6sKoJGS Y4gGp1pTApeH32wxzYbcke18NDIeDdGhsI96oQxoEb4EQ1Up0kqDrCIKEmPh29wf7h4n oZsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01NMaukw/l3Ev8JlK5ck89UKBZChDBGZ4sWGaxyt/w0pR2cpKnp5WcE5eAJIzORu4pWrzzmwCzoBiMzPA== X-Received: by 10.107.19.104 with SMTP id b101mr3539839ioj.150.1479557459358; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 04:10:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.102.3 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 04:10:58 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [86.168.50.82] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:10:58 +0000 Message-ID: To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen Cc: Niklas Keller , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f6dd2ca48df0541a650e2 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Abolish 50%+1 Votes From: pthreads@pthreads.org (Joe Watkins) --001a113f6dd2ca48df0541a650e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Afternoon internals, This is not a new subject for discussion, it has been discussed over and over, and I'm quite sure that many people had formed an opinion on 50%+1 votes before the RFC was posted. One week to allow new points to be raised seems fair enough to me. I didn't say there would be a shorter voting period, and I'm quite happy to leave the vote open for two weeks to allow votes to come in. This isn't a case where opinion is likely to change the content of the RFC: I'm not looking to change a bunch of rules, or implement a very complicated feature. We are only looking to answer the question "should we abolish 50%+1 votes" ... For such a simple question, 3 weeks in total should be long enough. Cheers Joe On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > 2016-11-19 12:18 GMT+01:00 Niklas Keller : > > 2016-11-17 19:45 GMT+01:00 Kalle Sommer Nielsen : > >> > >> 2016-11-17 19:22 GMT+01:00 Joe Watkins : > >> > Afternoon Kalle, > >> > > >> > We have to start with the assumption that everyone that votes, does so > >> > with > >> > good intentions. > >> > >> Ofcourse, but I just don't think it is fair that someone who made an > >> RFC and never contributed anything else to the project, can have an > >> impact on the future of PHP just because they got a wiki account or > > > > > > Just a note: People with just wiki accounts can't vote currently: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting#who_can_vote > > > > Regards, Niklas > > Hmm interesting, because I'm certain that in the past I have seen > people with just wiki accounts vote. I just had a look but I couldn't > find any such by browsing a few RFCs, maybe these records were removed > at one point? Oh well :) > > > -- > regards, > > Kalle Sommer Nielsen > kalle@php.net > --001a113f6dd2ca48df0541a650e2--