Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97008 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25705 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2016 23:42:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Nov 2016 23:42:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.22 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.22] ([212.227.17.22:52756] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 57/10-24806-AC19F285 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:42:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([217.82.239.250]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJGFi-1c58yC3tPu-002mUr; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 00:41:59 +0100 To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Nikita Popov References: Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 00:42:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:wJ9E5qVj1ANPVXJeajY7ZnzJoR5PyGSGB5/1mp/yw5pHEMomikc +Zg2k7dlLXGZQsJZ7G/0mX0zFDv9nah3EXmXBLduFluR42B1uNw7wg6gff2b7MUyFsKV+S8 RDTXTfCQJYWQEhLMY/czKduDKxOulW3L+EDH/lSWVeyxNsoDDXhnLQaLTa98OcBaU9m6aoS 2lCpzXWGlmCGszLOFYaKQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:2u9RDJABzjU=:G5OgfVC/Q3p4azWAd9PZZv W40bnyOMZDNxZ1HDD4cXb5G2NO7zCjbyA2O62c61GgfPwq7tfXewbenp3XI2/8se386QF40Ks QzhefvWmb2JOy57xhzBdWGzUnumvgRHjG0igeZ6ypuDUnrW93mBlBwfzobtGxfRT1spDja6Ku 9DhQ04Z+ic7dp71rtr3jQWIdOcrY4o0K9XEPBRlM6+qveKaokOvxl+mSgC4JYg1it50rhGJHY fhP+FOO7IcrlM62GMXD2SuTTWWwXiXgY13LDGKBBrwwYlFiJ5ZvuYi3LlY/bpEIs/6WT6+jwl 7m+btNVdTeJPCluDD2q08nZBvgi5JK/lFuANNIl45luKPh1fO7Vcs45M16WCGSq/5mCoQPmeJ tDlkTPimvCMYVzpen49m0y+U1XW0sWMp/3OYxd7RrBaXMVzIpsTP8mozOAWWQ4u4sw7KTkNHf 5L1tkYJRJ3NcemQvmoFc/O4Vc0E3ZNabpnF/waO8nJyepbWb4/sHa0Rprz62CXaorL701AhfN L5hDJZxqlcjuSo+xfojFeBZHNXh+fC8QPoozCAvg5k6lQ1omuhFLmP8Avxm8sC8tjdK8QOnCt RIcT/2j4u720wMNNfs1Pty9UBh1kDR0f0HC+JVHlfKIWDlFDUuOcYZGlcb1TISn2qPO2tYNaA obSnK9jvKZkncW65lFiicrkMTvP4v6xmBjqrlMZ3Bb9bi5rIqymH94yjFKDcm7U8s+RMN2LkK oX4fAA1uN2ugAS3YBShGqG45zGKl0+vSEQ6f2qU+jOzHlvQOcxQOTi8falUDPYnNMAFNFaxpG FJq5kMK Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 7.2 From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 18.11.2016 at 20:01, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > 2016-11-18 15:55 GMT+01:00 Nikita Popov : > >> I've submitted this RFC for PHP 7.1 previously, but didn't follow through >> due to time constraints. Now I'd like to propose an extended version for >> PHP 7.2 and vote on it sooner rather than later to avoid a repeat >> performance. >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_7_2 >> >> The RFC combines a number of deprecation and removal proposals. Each one >> will get a separate 2/3 majority vote. The RFC overlaps with some recently >> discussed topics (each, binary strings) -- I'm fine with dropping these if >> someone has a more specific RFC. >> >> I expect some of these are no-brainers, while others are more controversial >> -- please share your specific concerns. > > Awesome list, thanks for your work. I got a couple of things to maybe > consider adding: > > arg_separator.output/input -- Do we really need an ini to define > these, can't they be baked in or something? (I did not look at the > code) See also a recent discussion on comp.lang.php: . TL;DR: these ini settings may cause quite some confusion (note that the OP is a long-term PHP developer), but removing them might cause considerable BC breakage. We have to be very careful here, IMHO. -- Christoph M. Becker