Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:96977 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99070 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2016 20:58:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2016 20:58:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=marcio.web2@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=marcio.web2@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: marcio.web2@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.173 mail-yb0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.173] ([209.85.213.173:34101] helo=mail-yb0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AB/10-31735-DF91E285 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:58:38 -0500 Received: by mail-yb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id d59so74510403ybi.1 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 12:58:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=gO9qxwbI9hL0lv6MOFo9k/xf3JI1LaYasYFB43ifDQY=; b=gVLGHY5drmgRt572uo6/zT4CGZL/9xW3j01ZJyCbN0j16gwYhBvvDZVQkxProRdFPL Yeq2iUBhlOXfdUMPaGq+0s8RNdBdU85Js77GY4xsi8laVDrsF9/PKBu2daCPdNQv+uBr CXAuvZ4aNWxtrnFi5/lKCtZo3bFiw9iVKBHJC7P8wGEmACdleimmgwW+5OGA5o/fFwOu Toy5QrnNlrfuAJ2zeV6mOA1GPeNR+QAms0GEtEhN701VDIR2YRStTJJgV8EJrLOfxM5Z ly5pLb1LjYB/436Y2UydxwO923Pr8Z9ACHNuB6hAHgzXvwItOfp4gUE8TTRFv+lzwemP G2bw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gO9qxwbI9hL0lv6MOFo9k/xf3JI1LaYasYFB43ifDQY=; b=mHLwEZn/jXExC3duoxAg1bXvTMKFBYvLpeSS5ARpoui88MHRRm2dus4beM7Bsm7NdN wYFTDndmESBlSPkVE4v5UUTBQPVAiTjq7V7jbER61XXZi0LM279fFn4FrAeIiVYux4bE HkDPpplfCgeZNmw1IriFtTGrcO21+0//A7Pq9NjTcY4Ou3HdnyU5BK/gyfpC8LEql88x hgS4C7T/6QhDKq2n6GbRIfdd4MqhHcDB6YVd8Bp8k0Cxju7kSTnSNhqEJV1Bx+bKeCmS xoWPt+AFKQP9Tfd3Yk6TA8lBYBIz0ENTZSVG8qs3QXlmhriV5/QglDiuflLG7lO00QqK wGPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03yOutfha/zqyWrOFSMBtl3hoZVbzEvasZfh4Xrqpaq6TTX9wFNRluY4e5MeUlwiMCNMWvKGNJjsXGQhQ== X-Received: by 10.37.96.212 with SMTP id u203mr2810823ybb.124.1479416314675; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 12:58:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.192.8 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 12:58:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:58:14 -0400 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143f71ee96951054185738c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Abolish 50%+1 Votes From: marcio.web2@gmail.com (Marcio Almada) --001a1143f71ee96951054185738c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2016-11-17 13:18 GMT-04:00 Joe Watkins : > Afternoon internals, > > This has been discussed before in various RFC threads, there does seem to > be some consensus that 50%+1 votes could be harmful. > > To what degree, I am not sure. > > I raise for discussion the topic of abolishing 50%+1 votes, and requiring > all changes regardless of their nature to pass by a super majority of > 2/3+1. > > Please read the (brief) RFC and raise objections here. > > There will be a one week discussion period for this RFC. > > Cheers > Joe > > Hi Joe, I fully support the change to always require super majority on all votings. Sometimes RFCs don't contain a language change (by the criteria defined on our wiki) but can contain BC breaks. I used to believe the RFC authors would have the sensibility to always raise the bar higher in these cases, but it's much better to change the system to enforce super majority IMMO. About the requests to have 75%+1 votes, I believe raising the bar too high could be damaging when entering a new major release in the future. But perhaps RFC authors that stand for 75%+1 voting could propose RFCs with that ratio instead of 2/3+1 if they think it's necessary. PS: I wonder if the voting to change the process to always require 2/3+1 will be a 50%+1 poll? :P Ty, M=C3=A1rcio Almada. --001a1143f71ee96951054185738c--