Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:96969 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80647 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2016 18:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2016 18:17:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.83.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.83.48 mail-pg0-f48.google.com Received: from [74.125.83.48] ([74.125.83.48:35716] helo=mail-pg0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AA/A0-11917-A24FD285 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:17:15 -0500 Received: by mail-pg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id p66so93848069pga.2 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:17:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z7NlQFinRWS7M4oxavVSjIH9eByBp41qE29G0exYi8s=; b=xkLhty91dE/zwyU2dhHwhZ6/HFnufy2hsoPJcHH5f4hl7mBblKVMMnFSpHNewR6rte 2m6UzqBEZkR4rJzY2W6vit/PDbbjScfUCdxHIuzP90xwEumdIrTbQP05q2/7Opt0nfjd H1Q0xiyQqrdLqYHxGxV0eefukW20eK440xoZYPstUxDflwH0iTwhkWEJMZt65VE5wKAi k3Rnkx9FUWhtGMtEMkzXSG0ZILXVOwJw/TrpWZLCBYpUtQe/491JpluVSpBGSrPIJ4vd 4DXWHUJCcr4VUxyfDO+JNQjykiQ2LkQlH/rCLnhVMihhvbit+jzjHE4D+qJ+5zCxz+Pd sTTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z7NlQFinRWS7M4oxavVSjIH9eByBp41qE29G0exYi8s=; b=JPnq/RtCpEiU4UiKCo+R3Gpia0CrFNnev2vv+zz37Yi8XGb82uq0Sk06gTnw9CGEmS aNqehNXhVkUphCTbYdFK90pIVoSr1gLMIHEFQPNTH5bP7Z92RBDaHfmbgYglU8WF5rMa M2uOF0hrHrFs+oAHkRaR/18Pe8cMbaXrlRRI5hd8U37H8mjPewFqno6tu4fLHvEWnE98 +u526B6WqvKqjj8IMAoZfqtLyFO5RopKp+mNX1KdKzc/VZFtb6oBL3qitQXowq0YezG4 tUQrobvTG23Z7AZ3ZZzuANDGxRZEKaDZ66C52nlc/Lhj3Fqh9SmEaTDtENls7ctkmAf4 ogzg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvcBDCKRqGdOi0rdhsLQKshRPoU0kDEjwyd6iuPh7os0R5OzSSuM2aKDCRotpY8cnA== X-Received: by 10.99.178.6 with SMTP id x6mr9902186pge.63.1479406632157; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.67] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d197sm6584922pfd.38.2016.11.17.10.17.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:17:11 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1ff261d9-129e-3b97-adf1-0e3e2aad280b@gmx.de> Message-ID: <8b980bff-8173-a1a3-bed9-1b3b556be6cd@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:16:35 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Abolish 50%+1 Votes From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 17/11/2016 18:03, Joe Watkins wrote: > Afternoon Chrisoph, > > The minimum number of votes is going to be the subject of another RFC, > let's leave that aside for now. I'm not sure splitting this into lots of micro-decisions is wise: why not discuss a general reform of the voting system, and have a single RFC which can then document the agreed system, and supersede https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting? This could then include: 1) Clarifying who exactly can vote; the current definition is very vague, and allows for wildly differing numbers of votes, making the next two points much harder. 2) Should there be a "quorum" (minimum number of votes) required for a vote to be passed? 3) What should be the minimum proportion of votes required for a resolution to pass, given the decisions made under 1 and 2. These issues are all interconnected - if you have a large voter base, and a large quorum, then the difference between 50% and 66% is much higher. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]