Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:96968 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78968 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2016 18:13:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2016 18:13:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pthreads@pthreads.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pthreads@pthreads.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pthreads.org from 209.85.214.49 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pthreads@pthreads.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.49 mail-it0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.49] ([209.85.214.49:34062] helo=mail-it0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 91/50-11917-333FD285 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:13:07 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f49.google.com with SMTP id l8so22174039iti.1 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:13:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pthreads-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=uIfuT8xdm5tgzWJ3wx2OZofjkkEQbXv2H2xXHGvio5c=; b=bmuxj/Xci6d2AqpbtNiCNSidHmoH8g6IpWfaNRkyWLXsCzJd4jLnZARC5J12bhqmfk 63d9Abl72h4ZAR83vfJpG6EC41KwKr/AVz4rq5NN955wIUPjWM5DmLtSCago0e0o4uFE gQ7yepDsIq6aFN1JUWGxVzYGWu64sRE/if0e76aGVxG7nuF9HAIQlcQ6OSrmlkV6/5CI I4nxWrTFCZISzvszgZi7mcdXYCGM5pciym+TiPzN5lQsc40Y5/PVnSn1zkq4rFq2v9lf 7IMHgkvSxIrBsPqON1BF+uVaVlty0KQbuZrhhRKRHakHObbmqEKhDR6H5kSTOPjWiTvP cTNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uIfuT8xdm5tgzWJ3wx2OZofjkkEQbXv2H2xXHGvio5c=; b=EPdsGBTbDKviO/jBlmmfpZPGcakgkpXoNXU7P8/BQMVtrdgaCTUvE55EGJc6eL6j2h R0ch/mmyxBJ+q3heC8h9Vtj7Ir2dat9AdZS9zelKOgLc2V71N23Zcyy8WgDC0hmNW/s7 0uUY32lQjnH+X6bpxMF+R8qztRWuV72Qq7kwez11+Ud3a3jFvpQ0qyuc9fSFrkLdUsSz Ww9SZAArCrT/XwXd9W6Wtj3Gu24laxiNm0YegUi75NMzJb/0xejvDSVHnpLH34T951yU 2J3k+eFgCp6qVNI52z3QdwjkXZ0mIDirrEpxP8JddVQoR+8E27GBKox1XezGNU3PQebo PWFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01N8psshDBQVvtGRunmgNrVKrgU79hTTmtwUePspyXkuJeis5GW0iAOPVTTnJ17jqqTjIRTU7VlwaGV2A== X-Received: by 10.107.168.223 with SMTP id e92mr4374911ioj.40.1479406383255; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:13:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.102.3 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:13:02 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [109.157.245.230] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:13:02 +0000 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114275bcf3e1d90541832388 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Abolish 50%+1 Votes From: pthreads@pthreads.org (Joe Watkins) --001a114275bcf3e1d90541832388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Afternoon Nikita, My mistake, changing that ... Cheers Joe On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Joe Watkins > wrote: > >> Afternoon internals, >> >> This has been discussed before in various RFC threads, there does seem to >> be some consensus that 50%+1 votes could be harmful. >> >> To what degree, I am not sure. >> >> I raise for discussion the topic of abolishing 50%+1 votes, and requiring >> all changes regardless of their nature to pass by a super majority of >> 2/3+1. >> >> Please read the (brief) RFC and raise objections here. >> >> There will be a one week discussion period for this RFC. >> >> Cheers >> Joe >> > > A technical note: The existing supermajority requirement is >= 2/3, not >= > 2/3+1. I think that should stay the same. > > Apart from that, I totally agree that everything should take a 2/3 > majority. It simplifies the rules and avoids the common and very pointless > discussion about what exactly constitutes a "language change". I have the > vague impression that this issue has come up on pretty much every major > RFC (like phpng -- Is it really a language change if it's just internals? > Similar for int size changes. Similar for PHP 6 vs 7, etc.) > > Nikita > > --001a114275bcf3e1d90541832388--