Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:96964 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73104 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2016 17:59:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2016 17:59:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.68 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.68 mail-it0-f68.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.68] ([209.85.214.68:34518] helo=mail-it0-f68.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E4/B0-04294-6FFED285 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 12:59:18 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f68.google.com with SMTP id o1so16816028ito.1 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:59:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=ls7SRvmXiD2quYpg2iMkIBiPjLxb4EL5hpHFmYnryK8=; b=Jc+FSYjqc0OtScYQtGtH1b7IL3mcU9+uN8pYwq6pY5q6xqIsrYkxQSqtSGnqS/Dy5D hZPDG3Pha8QPZerysHy65x6WI8yDHMD8g3xd+7d2OIZQDjw3NLonGgfM9onRqcYo1wbW D5wI9y91LbKo/kCUEL4n9WtlvTo25dAY15fT89QhLD9bXeG264bJ+L+9CWpN2r6pg+Zs 8eNWJHDGDxPu8srHA1v+CEZkwmJkWgSlFVpPau5MVYYl/iRDdf4aWozvfj6fZxBTx28E DZu+ajSp8VKXIfqHw4XpltvOtI9Oh96+yYBnbfOKs0VNfLLKLlRArKvn8TsGzxB90AaO cY9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ls7SRvmXiD2quYpg2iMkIBiPjLxb4EL5hpHFmYnryK8=; b=Xxb9dhOLSwIJy7twb2VJVqcyEkd98essUbnIf7SlC7/LGhqLfVoFlIjPjTmL3maFh3 ho4fHf3ddCs0OfZloREPGD92ti5YTAp4G64V71qW7uFFoV7hLzVslEidi8fyQ+76Umk9 RBJ8PumscG3h2hqDdQ5adutcgp4wPuJxMBOX5Ly3t+t7gGnUOus+Q57w4sq6B6J3YYQC rMgKEvv/KNUBSal9Vei3wk3yzkIXQu2c+Lz/tG7VCAJ+OdA3fqGoP0WjwoqY4QK0l3mj OF5lhwTL6gPXxPmVh1UybLnAfrVo3TwtkLRbmrgnh/J/uya+iOME0+fKH16R5Wf3Y2T5 cTBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01LMeplllQH80ONzZ+1aN8YrzRx4zj4jV1VHAiTHkfz1QBNt5EcrAapej3V9pjtYfE6zRfN5z6dRMiYug== X-Received: by 10.107.19.22 with SMTP id b22mr4255104ioj.236.1479405556024; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:59:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.138.234 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:59:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:59:15 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ofr_oPuhJyA7BAsL1ipC7EWUA_E Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Abolish 50%+1 Votes From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Hi Joe 2016-11-17 18:18 GMT+01:00 Joe Watkins : > Afternoon internals, > > This has been discussed before in various RFC threads, there does seem to > be some consensus that 50%+1 votes could be harmful. I still stand by that we should only let active contributors to PHP vote, while I understand that not everyone votes and there are many projects within the PHP.net umbrella. I do understand that many from outside projects wants to contribute and not everyone is great at C or internals or similar, but it is us that maintain PHP and if everyone who have a wiki account votes on something they may not understand the implication of, then it us that sits with it for years to maintain. By doing that I think we wouldn't need to have a X%+1 for accepting an RFC, if there are a tie, then there is obviously a dispute among us core developers and it can be discussed. Kinda what we used to do with voting on the ML, just by tracking them on the wiki interface. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net