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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 11:09:18 +0000
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To: Joe Watkins <pthreads@pthreads.org>
Cc: Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com>, "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@gmx.de>, 
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Object typehint
From: petercowburn@gmail.com (Peter Cowburn)

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On 10 November 2016 at 10:38, Joe Watkins <pthreads@pthreads.org> wrote:

> Morning Peter,
>
> > I'll put RFC: On hold, then apply patch, draft some info in RFC and the=
n
> set up new voting.
>
> Just a few messages up from here ...
>
> Would you prefer a new thread to make that announcement (I think it may b=
e
> better) ?
>

No, it's fine IMO (and is the norm) to just have a message in the [VOTE]
thread. I simply missed Micha=C5=82 saying he was closing the vote, when
skimming the thread this morning, so thanks for pointing it out. :)


>
> Cheers
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Peter Cowburn <petercowburn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 10 November 2016 at 09:11, Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2016-11-09 21:53 GMT+01:00 Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de>:
>>>
>>> > On 09.11.2016 at 17:28, Joe Watkins wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >     I want to explain why I voted no on this:
>>> > >
>>> > >     I think it's significantly less useful without variance,
>>> variance is
>>> > > something that is usually difficult to achieve in PHP, but not for
>>> this
>>> > > feature in particular.
>>> >
>>> > Can you please elaborate what you mean with variance?  I see some
>>> > practical use cases for covariance of a method with return type objec=
t,
>>> > but I don't see how contravariance could be achieved for parameters o=
f
>>> > type object.
>>> >
>>> > If your suggestion is only about invariance of object return types, I=
'm
>>> > not sure if this very special case would make sense (for consistency
>>> > reasons).
>>> >
>>>
>>> We already have it for iterable -> array. We would have it for all othe=
r
>>> types if there wouldn't be an implementation issue.
>>>
>>> Regards, Niklas
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> > Christoph
>>> >
>>> > >     I absolutely want it, but I want it to be properly useful.
>>> > >
>>> > >     If the RFC were halted and patched to include variance, I'd +1
>>> it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers
>>> > > Joe
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Micha=C5=82 Brzuchalski
>>> <michal@brzuchalski.
>>> > .com>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hi everyone,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Two weeks have passed since this RFC was put to discussion here.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Therefore, I'm going to put it to a vote for inclusion in PHP 7.2.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Voting starts today, 2016-11-06, and will close after two weeks on
>>> the
>>> > >> Sunday 2016-11-20 at midnight.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> The RFC and voting widget can be found here:
>>> > >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/object-typehint
>>>
>>
>> The vote appears to be closed right now, did I miss an announcement?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> It's a normal 2/3 majority required vote.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks!
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> regards / pozdrawiam,
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Micha=C5=82 Brzuchalski
>>> > >> about.me/brzuchal
>>> > >> brzuchalski.com
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>
>>
>

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