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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:02:52 +0000
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To: Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>, PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][DISCUSSION] Improve uniqid() uniqueness
From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller)

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Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> schrieb am Di., 18. Okt. 2016, 11:42:

> On 18/10/16 08:35, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
> >> Sure, but it did happen that shared hosts block it, noticed during
> >> > random_compat adoption.
> >> >
> >> > You claimed there isn't any BC break.
> > The line should be
> >
> > "There is no BC for usable systems"
> >
> > Any file permission could disturb PHP script execution, couldn't it?
> >
> > I think it's nothing special for /dev/urandom. User should set up system
> > correctly to use PHP. Then there is no BC at all.
>
> 'Suppliers' should perhaps be helped to configure their systems so the
> users can use things, but things like /dev/urandom may need some
> additional notes to help identify problems when frameworks like owncloud
> start throwing errors. As Niklas says it's shared environments where
> this one may bite.
>

Just to be clear: I don't argue that those systems are broken, I just say
that there is a BC break for those systems and that this has to be
documented.

Regards, Niklas

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