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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:05:09 +0700
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To: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>
Cc: Mathieu Rochette <mathieu@texthtml.net>, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com>, 
	Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>, 
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Sep 12, 2016 6:51 PM, "Nikita Popov" <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 12 Sep 2016, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> >
>> > > This RFC is about stop bundling it with the php releases and propose
>> > > composer/pickle instead. Everything else has nothing to do with this
>> > > RFC (aka web frontend, what happens or not on pear.php.net, its
>> > > packages, etc.).
>> > >
>> > > To all: please re focus to the topic.
>> >
>> > It's curious to see though that the off-topic comments get replies, but
>> > few real concerns do from the RFC author - such as not removing
>> > something before we have a confirmed alternative. I'd like to trial
>> > pickle first for a few releases and only then see whether to remove the
>> > PEAR/PECL installer.
>>
>>
>> yeah, unfortunately when the thread gets flooded with off-topic mails it
is
>> easy to miss some replies in the noise.
>> I do agree that it would be better and easier to only vote for bundling
>> pickle instead of also voting for unbundling PEAR at the same time.
>
>
> Is it (technically) possible to unbundle PEAR while leaving PECL?

Not really without actually bundling pear but not provide the pear cmd.

Also pickle works with pecl.php.net as long as it has a package.xml v2,
which is required since quite some time on release.

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