Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95940 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12603 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2016 11:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 2016 11:52:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-yw0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:36196] helo=mail-yw0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 17/39-58405-0E696D75 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:52:01 -0400 Received: by mail-yw0-f170.google.com with SMTP id u124so68684337ywg.3 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CMZOvwp836F1C5KFbG+3HPxmQxQoqdcP0jQOVCWnVkg=; b=Gp7Txe+DoD+MawgMvbo3xe4BWe68Xw2RAFZbKWTtfu3Bxc8oBPhXu2WBEiOMKr44vk MKlHGPMTkPCUEpcCH7ms9GMlrpWboLkqCmHomOW5qfe3qAZQ6+us5PXguaF+hSo/13Hy EGmcAv1FOPK6tKLmjPL3La5fcLD848fYfkN03O8LFeex0oRTrb5h+PioDGTUSUuvvEXa sFnRt/UUxBqil+JeJiyCvBiD7vWT9zRVhoZrzMELoKEzmshf0A3fqOqYHT8L1AeCCjNn /E9UBrYQWr5ch0stoqFtcJZmMLokuOHYlGilI0clsIhttF+/xnytoB9NKgM+uA2aRjHt iPpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CMZOvwp836F1C5KFbG+3HPxmQxQoqdcP0jQOVCWnVkg=; b=lqcIk8K4hQNDep7l2zDbNOsGfLiDmZ73iy4YYliOm1MuIjRbZyarPBXQEccq2mWaE6 lDFaMUaf2idnomdnLIluI6+cTaX9IsiBoErirDAjwk7WVP95alUzLjNJROwB7LN24tD7 DX1xzezWOwr7LgdxTylXoGbwtcDeOnNX+z9PAQLjNma4HAT/TFXLGeTyGgQV4zd2I48q L4ByZ2v5acJ8Kjvg9QALe1aZRbJq1knTiOYTmEJ5QvbWxC/Kwuzh3HBxfUJuqwZTEyI2 QXbqFiGocfqaK3Fe/JuMQlGx1RJjcoYa0grTrTIyYFB0ejAqm1kn+QaGi9ylDki+LJkb 5Xgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPgzwc9JwbpZys0fNFgNtRjMeZLYDG/dJKNKEs4hhe/Gb6FZLw1CjDMRjxerSDv4NPS7Gb5hnHz8LYjFQ== X-Received: by 10.129.61.13 with SMTP id k13mr14140896ywa.56.1473681118005; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:51:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.13.215.139 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:51:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:51:57 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Derick Rethans , Pierre Joye , Mathieu Rochette , PHP internals , Stanislav Malyshev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114281148d0ff4053c4e1f0a Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --001a114281148d0ff4053c4e1f0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2016, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > > > This RFC is about stop bundling it with the php releases and propose > > > composer/pickle instead. Everything else has nothing to do with this > > > RFC (aka web frontend, what happens or not on pear.php.net, its > > > packages, etc.). > > > > > > To all: please re focus to the topic. > > > > It's curious to see though that the off-topic comments get replies, but > > few real concerns do from the RFC author - such as not removing > > something before we have a confirmed alternative. I'd like to trial > > pickle first for a few releases and only then see whether to remove the > > PEAR/PECL installer. > > > yeah, unfortunately when the thread gets flooded with off-topic mails it is > easy to miss some replies in the noise. > I do agree that it would be better and easier to only vote for bundling > pickle instead of also voting for unbundling PEAR at the same time. > Is it (technically) possible to unbundle PEAR while leaving PECL? Nikita --001a114281148d0ff4053c4e1f0a--