Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95938 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9297 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2016 11:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 2016 11:42:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.47 mail-it0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.47] ([209.85.214.47:37717] helo=mail-it0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3C/78-58405-2A496D75 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:42:27 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 186so8295554itf.0 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:42:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vte291pogqwF+5i1k+w53R0h4QiZGDNwN5mIEuIp9mE=; b=U9NHJVDuAON6hM8dS91Nu433LtO9qiIj7uiMbt8e/pHAgBE1nT0ISJkFOmybxbMheF vOyKRgEMJiZnXKJOxA91RMkZd+2Xvdz9vuj/TRmWUwUS9pS+dfNo77HnCXKdy64SK/50 xAWqiuKyyCGJyElmbSc4BWSyLHWQ+EPFbBJ2MHlSZSw6oXraAJA/n5hI+C4UddSeLb5S 5CXYtYG67dRAKpDnQ1rDrOHTBXOeV2keffK8mNLv6TxLvP0+w9Hj02LRoi6HkmzdyjMq qhS0WrXqGa1lNbKQSxr6Csf0vK/H0ljlV0x5PrVubBw8A8VEPDQnFbmBELS/mkWFNjM7 219Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vte291pogqwF+5i1k+w53R0h4QiZGDNwN5mIEuIp9mE=; b=AsHOd4KVURMmYYQJ8Jj/FaiYsCqX4D89IO9zyBT0SuLaJpdJdnXfWQbbK3XZ9uVal9 icngR9byp6z8XXY4odG1ls4fpDW3P1lydT5mWMbgZy4EkrmNI3cB9uHlQFmS4guss/X1 lxL73KPLLVuxvJZbmTCF2IhEdL+4HAY1ZhsrMcMBK+rpKtkk4vte4cLGKruzPM0Cideu ur93Ij4ltYmHlKVhqxIPNG6XOMI4p8L4nk7YL9erHSiJYbF7f8rVzh+jFIJyUZ4oJfim UY28sDyzhEwtIp+YxsAkTBN36XF9pIDA/5ELZ54LN8ExdcuGJtZ/tJp4QQGhFXYGZ18d tcvw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNEpbckYkn4YAJo6B1UZUpduwJ/DyIixvUt7t2YoAS0P3jq/8M8C0/VM3KbL0dFtwURYpymDaJl2ZyeYQ== X-Received: by 10.157.20.73 with SMTP id h67mr23919248oth.60.1473680544007; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:42:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.51.85 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.51.85 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:42:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:42:21 +0700 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: PHP internals , Derick Rethans , Sherif Ramadan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11449516568e3b053c4dfde8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --001a11449516568e3b053c4dfde8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sep 12, 2016 3:24 PM, "Stanislav Malyshev" wrote: > > Hi! > > >> PEAR/PECL as a package manager has historically had little utility to the > >> average user apart from installing those PECL extensions which aren't > >> packaged by a particular user's distribution repository. Certainly hasn't > >> had any real viability in years. Trying to replace something that's > >> inherently non-viable > > > > I beg to differ - this time with stats: > > > > https://pecl.php.net/package-stats.php > > https://pecl.php.net/package-stats.php?pid=981&rid=&cid=7 > > https://pecl.php.net/package-stats.php?pid=214&rid=&cid=25 > > > > Literally millions of downloads, and recently too. > > > > The PECL installer is in *wide* use. > > Is the stats for downloads by every mean or just by downloads via the > installer specifically? I.e., if I just download it by clicking the link > in web GUI, it is counted, or only when I use installer? It is all downloads, I cannot remember if I added the source back then. --001a11449516568e3b053c4dfde8--