Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95931 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92700 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2016 08:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 2016 08:24:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.50 mail-pa0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.50] ([209.85.220.50:33814] helo=mail-pa0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2E/65-58405-92666D75 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:24:09 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id to9so48742107pac.1 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:24:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xN8aixFazzO8lC/lv/BnTxBE4G+SSKTRpKkibGX868Y=; b=oleFzAX5Yuw8HzWVsvwPZwc3BRB3mgsq8NI6ZgFjRuSIcW6kXZs5v+r84hhd92Gu3p d06fklk00GhTfuyDR4DmLUdgxSCvSnszIB0CUtApz5AVdcUimWIKA0dTF5uJaN2l4Hmp O/bGENQ0Te2LWWd2HxgGnc3yrBePHjmqt10V7cKAsFO4i83l4zJ6eowkdsxxNRh3fDjV GklA8xp/Xvq4KokQgtLZKDGHBk5pv2ekoFFC+YH4RPGzO4LmRnP/NHTszNG4S4tJsYph 0cshm4N8llCB9CxvxW/eWaLsVZrv7kd1ujHQ/9zOfcszhwYHLJLdMXVggxX6xsbiNglp hB+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xN8aixFazzO8lC/lv/BnTxBE4G+SSKTRpKkibGX868Y=; b=cUq5HcQ7FmJX+y6FNB6Rrlwq7NnRXX/YiHe04OUXl/RRxrvpQc/advfFBXsGXm2+QB eLPQSDvkorVlnTSvmxTBGnk3zK2iIbdE2VZrMszHk8YI50TkTk3RV9ghQGGGXfXG0m5V ygMh2/tf7tL2HSdZPZPFXQr2cv0Lo7fcyuysdGArFFAQTP/58ZavD8dyNsoKiLnhWTPF 4y0HjI3zmwoNGXwIPRcxpkjkimhj9DtuwwUcG+5AgbXTvLbRvdAhvpR/Gx/Q4lg5zxYP C3jBpiiU3Sy1YZhFWH8xioyr2Kb+xMmFK1geP+rAP0aL1slbZosM1rAs0MeYQfGpBDcV RDww== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOlES1vT8su+3jLP9a+SpqhGFIj/6KYWhXcPgU5HjGBigUiXSaEaqhzZehpg24gCQ== X-Received: by 10.66.66.203 with SMTP id h11mr31712636pat.5.1473668646237; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local (108-233-206-104.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.233.206.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f23sm8572716pfj.72.2016.09.12.01.24.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:24:05 -0700 (PDT) To: Derick Rethans , Sherif Ramadan References: Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:24:02 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! >> PEAR/PECL as a package manager has historically had little utility to the >> average user apart from installing those PECL extensions which aren't >> packaged by a particular user's distribution repository. Certainly hasn't >> had any real viability in years. Trying to replace something that's >> inherently non-viable > > I beg to differ - this time with stats: > > https://pecl.php.net/package-stats.php > https://pecl.php.net/package-stats.php?pid=981&rid=&cid=7 > https://pecl.php.net/package-stats.php?pid=214&rid=&cid=25 > > Literally millions of downloads, and recently too. > > The PECL installer is in *wide* use. Is the stats for downloads by every mean or just by downloads via the installer specifically? I.e., if I just download it by clicking the link in web GUI, it is counted, or only when I use installer? -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com