Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95899 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65688 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2016 15:41:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Sep 2016 15:41:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.22 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.22] ([212.227.17.22:59144] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 54/C1-46544-1B924D75 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:41:38 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.103] ([79.243.115.246]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MADqP-1btyfn14Cv-00BPOO; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:41:34 +0200 To: Lester Caine , internals@lists.php.net References: <616bb9ff-bcd1-fd70-b251-05b280b5003e@lsces.co.uk> <52ae5494-f466-ac4d-c166-d47752b13344@lsces.co.uk> <32c3a330-cdfa-f310-85d7-d01eacbf3b86@lsces.co.uk> Message-ID: <8e659a83-7abd-0ab1-0085-c8b8a073d929@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:41:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:tQLIAzKdINVirT8pwCMI91ylCm+QiwPV8SQMsiKcGEhJIfOj0mq j0iKtr57NCOzHQaKB1RhCsJLPIc4v76XrGEtOI8STB9fiP3d0Guebd6j9rAd0ssqIrA0vk8 36YCsR16GwKcsyN4dSUUUwhLvkaJw0iB1dENX/oLDbXgc6HiOBzPKKUJh8LONmWFD+jqGdm JDr9oVChCcrVSqg4kpp9w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:9yJQj3meHt8=:xQ6iaLthc+hR3cNmaev/NK D7+FILdFsNbBQ987yDKrpjFq8JGOnuucsmMltI6PEJy9wLUv/a2KFri/Y+ZGtCPuzoBjuwzha 1Vmb2AkHSnF8xIVDwvUNSR3+5USdIAjOGYLpkb2oGMQrlDW8XrJQbZbI9c1YiCS5NF2fSF4nN oNzE+ETw1gvo12+5uRIQnVu4FMwj9644oTCAKXwiQLFILAAA5U86j3Cx00alNyufAHkFVtCnu owqgIpcDLu0GgMjSbZ+uBjMpOpRR932VlmyHUNpOTXWXUE4eGiIMaWcAhG0LZ368HAQh6POH+ H6XMEUTssTVzW281tlPblCnTmph5j02kO1Ts6RXPLknZbP26pdWmJRHANC8wLu/D1Z/LaOePw zpz20wiw5FqtUzhk1hbT3eD6McEdSqJ+arvo/SQR1jy3lO1tjW/p3aldtMcUQNlCRmIn14qdG i0oyQnPsyCTGmdG7jWLqufAoZ7yTMK/55epE1aiIjPgFzLUfwc1MiNqc5ZRTBQJ/jB3uV+Y5x WMG3/jw+3PgimTM6EMXhlUCvscFgkvhwZBj94XNbh6natIx7ATXEYZJXflDevVd8q7tspDlq4 PuUWBrBW/kf0BXyRTGDjMvUf/WU19lhQONkf3j1v32fAisLoKxAT25QuvVMjtVphqj7iwMIUh PZhUBN5n63GZr2pxzjv+c0qovEkYIRof74TZjvsCaKhmQs6FBjaN71VktGiyTMTe9f5+ydaSX VAFpHYNndc1z7MRJ+1D+t+w8tM11DldXuHCNxJgLygHK0Wbz47Ihwdo+zBfNCUGsYT6uDgMXx 7Pb+9Ry Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Modern practices ... From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 10.09.2016 at 17:09, Lester Caine wrote: > On 10/09/16 09:32, Lester Caine wrote: > >> Doing some digging I've found the conversations on this back in 2011. At >> that time the statement was made that 'php project does not provide >> binary builds' and 'if the user can't install a compiler they should not >> be using php'. I'll not name the source ... it was a thread on this list >> in 2011. > > I must clarify that as I was quoting from memory since I'd failed to > bookmark the thread and apologise I over egged it ... > > http://develissimo.com/forum/topic/104953/?page=5 > > So the correct quotes are > "I don't consider it our job to do binary builds for people." > > and > "If people are building critical > systems that rely on binary-only releases, they really should reconsider > how they do things and at the very least install a compiler on their > platform of choice and learn how to build stuff themselves." > > While that sentiment is practical for Linux based systems, until > recently it was an expensive investment to create the same environment > on Windows? I have not yet tried to check out a build stack on Windows > 10, but for the vast majority of PHP users it is not a practical option? Despite the rather common myth, building PHP on Windows nowadays is not really harder than on Linux. Detailed instructions are available on . -- Christoph M. Becker