Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95898 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63318 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2016 15:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Sep 2016 15:09:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.214 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.214 mail4-2.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.214] ([217.147.176.214:56277] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/61-46544-B3224D75 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:09:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 27565 invoked by uid 89); 10 Sep 2016 15:09:44 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 27552, pid: 27561, t: 0.2610s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.7?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 10 Sep 2016 15:09:44 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <616bb9ff-bcd1-fd70-b251-05b280b5003e@lsces.co.uk> <52ae5494-f466-ac4d-c166-d47752b13344@lsces.co.uk> <32c3a330-cdfa-f310-85d7-d01eacbf3b86@lsces.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:09:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32c3a330-cdfa-f310-85d7-d01eacbf3b86@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Modern practices ... From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 10/09/16 09:32, Lester Caine wrote: > Doing some digging I've found the conversations on this back in 2011. At > that time the statement was made that 'php project does not provide > binary builds' and 'if the user can't install a compiler they should not > be using php'. I'll not name the source ... it was a thread on this list > in 2011. I must clarify that as I was quoting from memory since I'd failed to bookmark the thread and apologise I over egged it ... http://develissimo.com/forum/topic/104953/?page=5 So the correct quotes are "I don't consider it our job to do binary builds for people." and "If people are building critical systems that rely on binary-only releases, they really should reconsider how they do things and at the very least install a compiler on their platform of choice and learn how to build stuff themselves." While that sentiment is practical for Linux based systems, until recently it was an expensive investment to create the same environment on Windows? I have not yet tried to check out a build stack on Windows 10, but for the vast majority of PHP users it is not a practical option? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk