Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95838 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3737 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2016 09:32:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Sep 2016 09:32:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.50 mail-oi0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.50] ([209.85.218.50:35100] helo=mail-oi0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 83/C0-61313-4B182D75 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:32:36 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id s131so124183467oie.2 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 02:32:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=UV6PtVkwBQ9jRcqND+tL2D8eTgI/OwAI6D193C+2D94=; b=mVdKLeP/Bpg97ztglxMb2hdKufT8MF0gHpNmBj5/HD10TJxgc/JgMmsBnoNrIw0iOM f+DCb7c0FQXk1TEY40fLGaT4gdCGcQa97DSmYz3f4hAU9vAlCxrYuPs43wXLOFF6hV7T TPvG8TCDYDzO5b11S08fm2//3gQz7wt552+8z1ZPtGkcYWNzadcs7JkvBJ71JF/6Rudw 3LrWzcf8jwqKsje9hVW219aRvZCVM2Dei5ihU2dEdFptRujVMC8G3nTptQYL+3BhdHpZ B2xBiiutquqaGdSLUcfspiFBcJqEslmS2XQ4JwYCVUZzs4XufSbBfEzLjPTyauBT4GHQ bgtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UV6PtVkwBQ9jRcqND+tL2D8eTgI/OwAI6D193C+2D94=; b=BowzfhLOfGRvv/KGI9aKMGfIMSttJNG3Tl0UDbNdoxC6TvDwqWlW7WUqBa23A/yLct SBEc8UEQD/p4neffsl1CbyibOjjmUHe+QdNz0bZasdFwh8lfREBBt67+6OqT7ItjvCZt Ja0XWTKLlaZXP4HWUKLHdwyPWItE/69BriZJ3xp2/PmuQv7M+qyoJzczG3h/bm9WhseE w3Loc6Q7oUlRBsCyVyE00eAFgGMeoOMM3NyUWPjxd17rpzwu/AZ1YSpFaG3cuiNF8q9O MH4fOHLlS/P/mYYYmpBmkpkcBmwiy1xY3UvVupm9xJl2I3OlM1T7IvOt56cWTP3jo23J HaIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPfZdziyG1fELtbkY2TMgYojntQAyweH2RWbzA2FMf+S5PNXgLKBwjW+1/lxd4SOZG1RH3QLZY5KwIg/A== X-Received: by 10.157.47.230 with SMTP id b35mr3229033otd.90.1473413552778; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 02:32:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.48.77 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 02:32:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:32:32 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gcXEtXPAHxDW2a16CLmL66w1frg Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki , Andrea Faulds Cc: Niklas Keller , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][DISCUSSION] Remove utf8_decode() and utf8_encode() From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) 2016-09-09 10:31 GMT+02:00 Yasuo Ohgaki : > Hi Niklas, > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Niklas Keller wrote: >>> -- >>> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>> >> >> Do you plan to emit E_DEPRECATED or only deprecate them via documentation? >> >> What about the alias suggestions? > > No E_DEPRECATED. Only document deprecation. > > I thought alias will bring more problems than solving issue from the > discussion, so I left aliasing as future scope. > > If anyone insists, I don't mind to have alias voting option in the RFC. I don't think we should have a vote to deprecate something in the manual, that is not actually emitting an E_DEPRECATED in php-src. Just go ahead and change the manual, we got lots of similar things already in there. Another note to keep in mind; If these were to be moved to any other extension, we would have to use our own implementation, or a library which we can use, because if my memory strikes me right, then these functions are implemented from LibXML2, although we always enable ext/libxml, at least on Windows, this could be a minor issue if moved. I'm neutral on the renaming. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net