Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95786 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13086 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2016 10:55:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2016 10:55:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:49246] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2B/F6-36123-6B341D75 for ; Thu, 08 Sep 2016 06:55:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BA3A10C01C; Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:55:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:55:45 +0100 (BST) X-X-Sender: derick@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl To: Michael Wallner cc: Davey Shafik , "internals@lists.php.net" In-Reply-To: <5E711EB9-EB23-4695-ABDD-483A96F20105@php.net> Message-ID: References: <5E711EB9-EB23-4695-ABDD-483A96F20105@php.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Wed, 7 Sep 2016, Michael Wallner wrote: > +1 on stabbing the PEAR installer from the source distribution. The PEAR installer is not just the *PEAR* installer, it installs and packages PECL extensions too. Actually, it's the only way how people directly install PECL extensions. > -1 on adding anything else. Composer is as easy to install separately > as PEAR from their origin as well as from OS distributions these days. So do you want PHP not to have a tool that installs extensions out of the box? Frankly, I think that's irresponsible. cheers, Derick