Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95775 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73957 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2016 08:28:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2016 08:28:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.52 mail-wm0-f52.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.52] ([74.125.82.52:36318] helo=mail-wm0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/A2-36123-42121D75 for ; Thu, 08 Sep 2016 04:28:21 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b187so154883763wme.1 for ; Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4NaBORCRVGvCXku6CSd5EVsZtfad9lGnqkODQATkyXI=; b=CBB9OglBwQzizmvev2cFcp04JvC/shh5eTZJMnsTbO8uwFnVyhlM5py5NypqeEyVqZ hZzkoFWQB1hc7XZhOWAEOJJYbTkxnoUKLNnIodAhTmlUWRrew7bZsFznYq72hhidfG16 /IECTNYsQyo/rp9bm7I2LOgjbRA+Ml+neRFs98xZ314jWPhCgCG91UvCEnqr/21NAqP+ bFwtqVctAbDdalvkSCbI3lbYGF9i83kkU8qWEWuMtOR78fIUhSRynb0mPk9RXQtNibTT KG2LY1BaDtQ1U3Y4HzPJ69tA9BaXFbkcA8B4EXS4B0wmxyzJPXoXKID84Qy/zu9+iHRk cbcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4NaBORCRVGvCXku6CSd5EVsZtfad9lGnqkODQATkyXI=; b=aYx1jTXlO7liFukjl483eh1yuj3yg+wgUtpdTUvGDURjM6MFa1dgqV7sI8uDULiTW+ st75riVDiyoDvJ03deTMascfpjQwIRsxaX7zocwgcYf0bYgS1aph6rS8F/+tKu0bkGKo +aBJWZ6kaP726C2qKDqwiAxK1H/rphyW9MZ6jZXbERCC7IVewzxR4RNoPbWc3KFtUAEJ NKUtwWSqBEENLL8XGYvRMv404GPrJHQs72tjZQlGBAqT0pt1+LXT3Kf6h4/p8ZXooK+P QE/oJdFGB8Vtff82U93Wbda4wxdK01QD2UTDEnW7F07WHSNdiCbLmnhbVdhL/Wl5s7CJ Zozg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNJ0kUAR9vE0LyUrzFuWBT+8Kv42wazDTRpFyVZIu2LOTCUanLtjjvzsGJVYfT0OA== X-Received: by 10.28.13.143 with SMTP id 137mr8162198wmn.46.1473323296704; Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.98] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m5sm2105764wmd.1.2016.09.08.01.28.15 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:28:15 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <8E.31.36123.5BB11D75@pb1.pair.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:26:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8E.31.36123.5BB11D75@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 08/09/2016 09:05, Tony Marston wrote: > I had to debug and fix every error myself, but now I have the PEAR web > interface up and running. Have you contributed these patches back to the community for others to benefit from? Perhaps you could adopt the maintainerless package yourself? > There are huge numbers of developers out there who use PEAR Then perhaps as well as taking on the maintainership of PEAR_Frontend_Web, you could reach out to some of these people and rekindle the PEAR community. According to its constitution, it is run by an elected "PEAR Group" and "President". Since these are elected for fixed terms, the posts have apparently been vacant since Jun 15th, 2010. [http://pear.php.net/group/] > (and by "you" I mean everyone who works on PHP internals) Then that should not be "you", but "we" - take some responsibility, and talk about what you would like to offer the community, rather than what you demand of it. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]