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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 17:49:18 +0200
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To: Davey Shafik <me@daveyshafik.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle
From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner)

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Regards,
Mike



> On 02 09 2016, at 21:32, Davey Shafik <me@daveyshafik.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi internals,
>=20
> I'd like to introduce a new RFC to deprecate pear/pecl (in 7.2, and =
remove
> in 8.0), as well as add composer/pickle (optional in 7.2, default in =
7.3+)
> in their place.
>=20
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-pear-include-composer
>=20
> I highly recommend reading the twitter poll and accompanying thread at
> https://twitter.com/dshafik/status/756337267547832320
>=20
> I believe that pickle solves the issues with regards to pecl, and have =
run
> the idea passed Jordi and Pierre. Both are fine with this RFC. :)
>=20
> I understand that adding in composer/pickle is just setting us up for
> having a future "Deprecate composer/pickle & Replace with foo/bar" =
RFC, so
> I've proposed the voting reflect that some people will just want to
> deprecate/remove pear/pecl and not replace them at all.
>=20
> I'm also proposing voting choices around the optional/default =
introduction
> of composer/pickle.

+1 on stabbing the PEAR installer from the source distribution.
-1 on adding anything else. Composer is as easy to install separately as =
PEAR from their origin as well as from OS distributions these days.

On a side note, we should look into evolving ext/phar to a plugin based =
system, not the hard coded foreign feature sink it currently is (with =
regards to compression and signing support at first, with the underlying =
file format being next).

Cheers,
Mike




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