Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95720 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73723 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2016 09:17:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Sep 2016 09:17:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.46 mail-oi0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.46] ([209.85.218.46:33598] helo=mail-oi0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8C/B8-18051-54BDFC75 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 05:17:57 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f46.google.com with SMTP id y2so17289024oie.0 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:17:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=30GGBKM5B881zQXnTykUO5AcCHMTRQdsGk/r9lHSCFE=; b=zdsKvT4w7WPN6DDVpSQm3AWo1DU/nCRUA0CBwyW8wwZjralUFtZVwZ/xU0IL9NjUAt 0e/ym0ocgVMR7BgEdK/PRLELw3TTXGoVJwgz1U+yaM+27fS8hT4JPKKBIRWczee9vshe JYLbDF7O4BCtou/ZJllngWQ+awV8EqMbA7/+MGbmVoZ9/wQOh8yiCyNcz/+84WidVdj4 bjzfxcMCtuwO9iqR8SSm8q4cKEet4k7mTyWj32ivuP6JG1J9IyjQYC0h+HTRh82+3wFu 5fRRd8VD/8WUNJNezxUz34D3t54JZp6P3T1bjHhlfXL2wZt8qk+8UskFsZ8L795rij1f zQHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=30GGBKM5B881zQXnTykUO5AcCHMTRQdsGk/r9lHSCFE=; b=HCzOQIC0ZmvYGH8LjqCwFnQxKwEMltjQwDlr5CkGFs7JC4oQyjONdKwr1y5/6rtGXV Du0wLJHvG7E92Q2AbKM1PtG0FHLvzu5bWtB480JX5MXneZMByyxFqHCUAhHR/x5oSNt8 Iu95FPRblVPVqmLZTHkqQAHwXNL/j2yfsaF9LhCOWiK2iYqE86KXDfhIfb/oDZ13fTYm PqLkpsV2ysI9V+yXqJBMGUraUy4frVZy80RLCyp6QmZ29uQaPa4bgGSBe1aFTHxKm8+l epZFoFwWK9zUIC8ZzGwhnSlGOyaMi94I0NJtF8qITEGsW1fvzhEgTvL9jkoZTDI/+qcv YU9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOAilCvc3x35J7F5g0Sw0H9r6O7CM8+oSG19Q7epHDOCdMKdYUNP1WCxq/SD6pjaNXLB1FYJG7bI4Isfw== X-Received: by 10.202.177.2 with SMTP id a2mr35326590oif.47.1473239874722; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:17:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.51.85 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 02:17:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:17:53 +0700 Message-ID: To: Tony Marston Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi Tony, On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Tony Marston wrote: > "Pierre Joye" wrote in message > news:CAEZPtU6aHYb9HsNXbXWp9q9PMoLYiJp=N1rjmspoFmHBEbDHxg@mail.gmail.com... > >> Happy to see there are still users for this tool, Christian and I had >> good fun writing it. Also you should know that this package is dead, >> it has no acttve maintainer (I was the last one) and has some >> limitations from to begin with, also was very handy at time especially >> for shared hosting without shell access. >> > > Typical. You create a useful tool, get your users hooked, then walk away and > leave them dangling. Ok. You seem to misunderstand the last part of my message. So let me be crystal clear here. Your attitude right now is poisonous, at best. Please change it. Now about this specific comment. I maintained the core of pear, pear.php.net, pear web frontend along many other things around pear for years. At some points I was more busy with php core itself along many other things and also realize that the PEAR project did not match my expectations nor I see it as the future of packages/distributions tool for PHP. So I decided that it is better for my personal, egoistical goals and expectations to leave the project. How did I left? It took months. I ensured that any of my packages have maintainers, I ensured that any of the core components had maintainers, then I left. So please, before you go down your big horse to insult my work and the community, do your homework and respect everyone here providing you the tools and language you use for your own projects. Also I strongly suggest you to consider your own view or vision as one along many, not the only viable absolute truth or usage. Thanks. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org