Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95714 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54419 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2016 08:10:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Sep 2016 08:10:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.54 mail-wm0-f54.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.54] ([74.125.82.54:38833] helo=mail-wm0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/86-18051-57BCFC75 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 04:10:31 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 1so17082621wmz.1 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:10:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WbXNizzNX66VhGrHdZltfpb+mp+Wh9RDoLGcwY8Cwjs=; b=k/H5CStk/jCqXuy+bHJ4D+RIj6zDaTkA7dHsvJmaTnGT+QVszNAwRCkd6ZcyombSET z5xTUjn/2DxBuCRpKZo5VFTlK2BMe28dAvqKDZdlsewDUZTzYPVEDwWiKzj/X2CNlChc jNHuK3MJabrZEVUvPS6sIp0hZdxu6fY0AcqEVkXQg2p+2UN2YZD4YDSe2SWKORvjOjLS guWhxFFFnVEEuOQacVGUYcMpLgqjHd7NWUVWmyK95mh9cWZGxcjEQjW5ZjsjP7h3N7iL oYsIFvg9cyhEJCQCvNcdjwdLANX3huExiH+r162y7UNoNah3O9oWrVrNgSmIpkVCFwXr 6fzQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WbXNizzNX66VhGrHdZltfpb+mp+Wh9RDoLGcwY8Cwjs=; b=VvxmiewHjPG7JJG6V+pqYNKHN0CKu3T0trc41Y+cLDdGzMZEjtHz2qU53V0h6VY6CZ sBSmJo+lp01lEePzSHRV0NEtFfjL0wP1H6J6z9fb8gvVXecnL0rm+Uh65KyvYIRU8y6E Bhv3+hUsbfwh7xbyq/rbuPrHxzxysLz2yXuB1b3OR3jDGHrbYBBK6coEx7S37bYEUogf uwo/BPoxj3XnPRxKoZnyPV2ExJ74QLmtlfmdPY3OkoGtTF+h6QLqdjYI5t7c/IWBBVQV cfo7sQcwS5+njSZCbot2up/NiX4G4a7btc4CwQgc+S8WM3MWkcCZhlqxaRRoplnEb/Pi EzqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwM22TFgezTYfw9m7uTZctPbzXdckaZ8Bdhh5hK/ayfamS1NgWj2tk8f5ALwTOQun/2RDCTOSbTxyI4LKw== X-Received: by 10.194.58.178 with SMTP id s18mr670143wjq.0.1473235827112; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:10:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.42.165 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 01:10:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:10:25 +0200 Message-ID: To: Tony Marston Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba9790c254190053be6729f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --047d7ba9790c254190053be6729f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Tony Marston wrote: > "Ferenc Kovacs" wrote in message news:CAH-PCH5qHdYen33Q_s7kTKM_ > 8qK71v8Ky6kT4fzuRfAwfX06BQ@mail.gmail.com... > >> >> >>> >>> Composer doesn't do that. >>>> >>>> >>> Then how come I've seen several complaints in various forums about >>> composer updating libraries in the background and screwing things up. >>> >> >> That proves nothing except that your knowledge is very limited. >>> >> > >> indeed it does. >> > > I can only report what I have read in various newsgroups and forums, and > they have said that composer has screwed up their installations. If it is > capable of doing that then it is a serious issue that needs addressing. you can, but you shouldn't spread FUD but do your own research. composer will only do something when you execute it, without providing any actual problem, there is no way those could be refuted (FUD), and brings nothing to the discussion. what you have probably seen is people not using the tool properly from my experience people usually screw 2 things up: 1. executing "composer update" without any arguments which will update every package listed in your composer.json file to the latest version allowed by the version constraints 2. not putting the composer.lock under version control and then being surprised that the other developer who makes a "composer install" from composer.json can have different(eg. more recent) versions installed --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --047d7ba9790c254190053be6729f--