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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 06/09/2016 11:18, Derick Rethans wrote:
>
>> One of PHPs biggest strengths is the availability of an extension for
>> nearly everything. There are *1000s* out there. Some made by single
>> people, some by small groups of people, or some by large companies. You
>> can't expect *all* of these extensions to be available through
>> distribution's packages.
>>
>
> By the same reasoning, most of them won't be available on pecl.php.net
> either. I'm curious, do people often run their own PECL-compatible
> "channel" servers?


in the past it was a pita so nobody really done it, but then Fabien
contributed Pirum (http://pirum.sensiolabs.org/) after that for a while it
was "hip" to run your own pear channel(from server/channel side pear and
pecl is the same).
nowdays most active projects switched from custom pear channels to
composer/packagist


>
>
> They'd still need to run the equivalent to "pecl" to install these
>> manually build extensions. Or at least the "pecl download" variant.
>>
>
> Not really, the ones I've used come as a tarball, use "phpize" and
> standard build tools, and have a "make install" to put the .so file in th=
e
> right place. Then you just have to add "extension=3Dfoo.so" in the
> appropriate ini location (which you have to do after pecl install anyway)=
.
>
> I agree that a stable tool for installing from pecl.php.net should always
> be included, though.


agree, and on windows we could dramatically improve the situation, afair
Anatol recently added the capability for peclweb to link/list the windows
binaries for the pecl releases, and pickle uses the dll-s from
windows.php.net to be able to install the pecl extensions without requiring
the build toolchain to be present:
https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle/blob/71fd8a97ac6c3f67fbb7f032533ddaa=
31cb6b662/src/Package/Util/Windows/DependencyLib.php


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