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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with
 composer/pickle
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

On 06/09/2016 11:18, Derick Rethans wrote:
> One of PHPs biggest strengths is the availability of an extension for
> nearly everything. There are *1000s* out there. Some made by single
> people, some by small groups of people, or some by large companies. You
> can't expect *all* of these extensions to be available through
> distribution's packages.

By the same reasoning, most of them won't be available on pecl.php.net 
either. I'm curious, do people often run their own PECL-compatible 
"channel" servers?

> They'd still need to run the equivalent to "pecl" to install these
> manually build extensions. Or at least the "pecl download" variant.

Not really, the ones I've used come as a tarball, use "phpize" and 
standard build tools, and have a "make install" to put the .so file in 
the right place. Then you just have to add "extension=foo.so" in the 
appropriate ini location (which you have to do after pecl install anyway).

I agree that a stable tool for installing from pecl.php.net should 
always be included, though.

Regards,
-- 
Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]