Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95690 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86859 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2016 08:22:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2016 08:22:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=thomas@nunninger.info; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=thomas@nunninger.info; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nunninger.info from 87.106.55.207 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: thomas@nunninger.info X-Host-Fingerprint: 87.106.55.207 mail.nunninger.info Linux 2.6 Received: from [87.106.55.207] ([87.106.55.207:35287] helo=mail.nunninger.info) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 46/90-45301-BDC7EC75 for ; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 04:22:51 -0400 Received: from p5093df94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([80.147.223.148] helo=[192.168.178.21]) by mail.nunninger.info with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bhBdx-0005E5-Rh; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 08:22:17 +0000 To: Sebastian Bergmann , internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: <04972f64-323c-00c3-8806-db51b0c61402@nunninger.info> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 10:21:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Several-Recipients: Yes Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: thomas@nunninger.info (Thomas Nunninger) Hi, On 09/06/2016 09:14 AM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Am 05.09.2016 um 12:13 schrieb Derick Rethans: >> You can't really ship PHP without a way to install extensions though! > > Why not? > > IMHO, PHP should not be shipped with any tool for installing PHP > components (PEAR Installer, Composer, ...) or extensions (PECL Installer, > ...). > > In my experience, people either install PHP using the package manager of > their OS distribution or they build PHP from the sources themselves. In > the latter case, they know how to build/install extensions manually and do > not need a tool for that. Not in my case. In a few cases I needed to install extensions that were not provided by my package manager. Regards Thomas