Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95685 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68511 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2016 07:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2016 07:14:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sebastian@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sebastian@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 188.94.27.5 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sebastian@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.94.27.5 scarlet.netpirates.net Received: from [188.94.27.5] ([188.94.27.5:57288] helo=scarlet.netpirates.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B8/8E-45301-ECC6EC75 for ; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 03:14:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 11869 invoked by uid 89); 6 Sep 2016 07:14:19 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 11861, pid: 11864, t: 0.0459s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.99.1/m:/d:20700 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.178.24?) (php@sebastian-bergmann.de@84.165.77.53) by scarlet.netpirates.net with ESMTPA; 6 Sep 2016 07:14:19 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 09:14:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: sebastian@php.net (Sebastian Bergmann) Am 05.09.2016 um 12:13 schrieb Derick Rethans: > You can't really ship PHP without a way to install extensions though! Why not? IMHO, PHP should not be shipped with any tool for installing PHP components (PEAR Installer, Composer, ...) or extensions (PECL Installer, ...). In my experience, people either install PHP using the package manager of their OS distribution or they build PHP from the sources themselves. In the latter case, they know how to build/install extensions manually and do not need a tool for that.