Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95625 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81242 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2016 00:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2016 00:28:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=neclimdul@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=neclimdul@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: neclimdul@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.178 mail-ua0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.178] ([209.85.217.178:33398] helo=mail-ua0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 57/A4-45301-F1CBCC75 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 20:28:16 -0400 Received: by mail-ua0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 31so14817635uao.0 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 17:28:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TL2KemcpdFlW+s4u7h7TfjCHpkV3utuet9bZN+cB+o4=; b=tCVR/94AQmBNS9lA1yNvDthOWXFG29t4FmYtJ819V2WTRq1EwQi2JL6WuJ/VRV07qR AdlgTRqjTjOW+ddAUsZBBzhhkPwhYkVUPnTuu7ne2MLxQlFIRV+gZDFd5mT0Dd8BhG+Z ulejX3Vzpd2qfaT88Nmh6ls5qGvI/pvNE4jzbP4Ef7t6W2Tz8TkaSKxiiy8YMsoM5Lf6 Dsu4VasLATneIoIwtO44WonqJ9DhpjGyNadcWpFz0y7xoHN3MlZ9HQxbPt8+v9qNsdVK dwbh3oARCXSHfAaOvOq4idOCTVmTFwgL76OjWS/LvL5IU2sR5MmL2JI0NQtLoNVT96Bz rUNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TL2KemcpdFlW+s4u7h7TfjCHpkV3utuet9bZN+cB+o4=; b=XEol8DIgxmfTEQyBLhznH0UBpDXpQf82d9e0rRD7jYErwdNoxztKy96yIk86Qfpylm qSnMa6pH8uU4f3pyjPNL5Sp0aKKvshTlANmf728hIo/Fk7CcJw4Wub5qgpvWSgm4Si0S P2BeN7sGjFRuYEL2HVhIa+nbWRd7bHq2C1/SOQAZ9yvfYh1fjby4gwgqZQBjZJ/BZndi 87TjxGBYuz6ToIsNitMYZc1MHhpj2Fe5A0lrQzKfFJOY1F/6yJTqkefPYJqyaNN5Zngy /Vj+GUqnccmSzzgTiL/o/ZJO9XamSaqud3evezIUFNrm1eRGBUqxvZUuQQ1+64rXE9vA Xpmg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOZbn9ncFWqDEA9glH3hzLnWTHSBxrOnyrw04LQ+/iCdl9ki/5HTYzxe8oUL7bWwgE+YNz/TnFCGbJkGw== X-Received: by 10.176.6.6 with SMTP id f6mr18759966uaf.46.1473035292271; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 17:28:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 00:28:01 +0000 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0481f8566983053bb7c165 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: neclimdul@gmail.com (James Gilliland) --94eb2c0481f8566983053bb7c165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 4, 2016, 7:09 PM Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > 2016. szept. 2. 21:58 ezt =C3=ADrta ("James Gilliland" ): > > > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:33 PM Davey Shafik wrote: > > > > > Hi internals, > > > > > > I'd like to introduce a new RFC to deprecate pear/pecl (in 7.2, and > remove > > > in 8.0), as well as add composer/pickle (optional in 7.2, default in > 7.3+) > > > in their place. > > > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-pear-include-composer > > > > > > I highly recommend reading the twitter poll and accompanying thread a= t > > > https://twitter.com/dshafik/status/756337267547832320 > > > > > > I believe that pickle solves the issues with regards to pecl, and hav= e > run > > > the idea passed Jordi and Pierre. Both are fine with this RFC. :) > > > > > > I understand that adding in composer/pickle is just setting us up for > > > having a future "Deprecate composer/pickle & Replace with foo/bar" > RFC, so > > > I've proposed the voting reflect that some people will just want to > > > deprecate/remove pear/pecl and not replace them at all. > > > > > > I'm also proposing voting choices around the optional/default > introduction > > > of composer/pickle. > > > > > > - Davey > > > > > Will composer/pickle address the unsolved PHP compatibility issue that > > makes pecl a pain following the PHP 7 release? > > You are probably talking about https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D71224. > > My understanding is that when fetching the packages from pecl.php.net > pickle would still have the same problem ( > https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle/issues/133) but if pecl authors > start adding composer.json to their repos you can describe the php versio= n > dependency for the given extension on a per tag/version basis. > > I still think that it would be worth implementing > https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D71224 > Accidentally replied directly, different report but same issue https://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=3D21008 --94eb2c0481f8566983053bb7c165--