Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95624 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76854 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2016 00:09:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2016 00:09:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.46 mail-wm0-f46.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.46] ([74.125.82.46:35157] helo=mail-wm0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EF/34-45301-5C7BCC75 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 20:09:42 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id w2so99985767wmd.0 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 17:09:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BQVRUGKx+l1IKRw/jRImoRmy+RREO4xUkxdgHIRV7vw=; b=eC7rCZdO5B6Ejotm536a3dcPSc/EGRlxeKYV4zI/nsrS1kZlexU5kbMK4XaxvXm4oi ImsJ7X6Q81jGiJgTYK8yKnj7wmyqLz6dEmo7jkkbcg+FNpG/vdW+V/ptQnGnN0RwyGou M9+S0MN/teixWI+Q28Db90cUvtB0ayrED43kq40sK5mVKQyNFbkguOVNPCfJ2qq8uMYI 0A+24Uy2AEzpeGIFbZsrqgLcsq2jc/NsxZ74k16w97LIUaJOufRZBfZk9BEe8jIsEwRd eZZc66QrktkdK8VReqw4eMMQVKJzFvKvT0n+X0+8RgapzLr6479i+vKy1l+8bJzntjg4 AZNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BQVRUGKx+l1IKRw/jRImoRmy+RREO4xUkxdgHIRV7vw=; b=QbUgP02mZqudin5Bsmhrp+PoPVszDOC50EM29no8ey6dpza5kcbg8L+y0xnto56dRz 3w+eSUoGNmScjHvTKL88u7Cb4N8ykdNkZPuf9t0GZT/udngE2PX0LrhmR/ibsVgHViMr +kUrCG3rGgMTwLt2Pigv/UHzDcmJxqiKpIjoI06G49qx0xEzoyHFhOAdE+wjml0UMZ1W QVRxa0LLhNk318DAG71FUmLzBIRbQKtBsaOySLZwv20bwTzJDweZMYV4rc5QSg8Bsege U+nT/12o+RllMrqv71kPgcSZhvCusUn+ULSZ2XZTGy4mHr7Hz4KnDv6E1G+71tqtVhyz 1RKA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOYHUBX13NBegLq66/IYS9xdNTIA6+p4XiVuuIHCe/iNXOjpqPNDeud5SRiD4rlqBXaTSLFsiZmlUngDg== X-Received: by 10.28.132.16 with SMTP id g16mr12072091wmd.97.1473034178567; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 17:09:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.42.165 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Sep 2016 17:09:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 02:09:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: James Gilliland Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114428b8f4a5b6053bb77e4e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --001a114428b8f4a5b6053bb77e4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2016. szept. 2. 21:58 ezt =C3=ADrta ("James Gilliland" ): > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:33 PM Davey Shafik wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > I'd like to introduce a new RFC to deprecate pear/pecl (in 7.2, and remove > > in 8.0), as well as add composer/pickle (optional in 7.2, default in 7.3+) > > in their place. > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-pear-include-composer > > > > I highly recommend reading the twitter poll and accompanying thread at > > https://twitter.com/dshafik/status/756337267547832320 > > > > I believe that pickle solves the issues with regards to pecl, and have run > > the idea passed Jordi and Pierre. Both are fine with this RFC. :) > > > > I understand that adding in composer/pickle is just setting us up for > > having a future "Deprecate composer/pickle & Replace with foo/bar" RFC, so > > I've proposed the voting reflect that some people will just want to > > deprecate/remove pear/pecl and not replace them at all. > > > > I'm also proposing voting choices around the optional/default introduction > > of composer/pickle. > > > > - Davey > > > Will composer/pickle address the unsolved PHP compatibility issue that > makes pecl a pain following the PHP 7 release? You are probably talking about https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D71224. My understanding is that when fetching the packages from pecl.php.net pickle would still have the same problem ( https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle/issues/133) but if pecl authors start adding composer.json to their repos you can describe the php version dependency for the given extension on a per tag/version basis. I still think that it would be worth implementing https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D71224 --001a114428b8f4a5b6053bb77e4e--