Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95591 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51070 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2016 20:41:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2016 20:41:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dave@mudsite.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dave+php@mudsite.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain mudsite.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dave@mudsite.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.175 mail-ua0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.175] ([209.85.217.175:35131] helo=mail-ua0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C6/A2-19490-5E3E9C75 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:41:10 -0400 Received: by mail-ua0-f175.google.com with SMTP id i32so187672681uai.2 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:41:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mudsite-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=lzQr3QRcY4Q+tp8nNrmSuuK59KFqJIGyjLy7fsYAAHA=; b=CTvNVCwagu+HU7k8UInaLUWXrDU8clawfJuQGQRWal7lC5uzWlENK6faDhmFpaXWN1 lTW4GS1DfzoHsAHs51+ww5iL/EvgnXiDU5UUiKUCuRy5RquePNESK3r+Y5CqQ+9Fd1nE Rba0M0ii58Vq4S3xoXE4sRRI9fYPbfrxHjHjmZZRSV3K6w++dhCLvFE+i0tk2P1oAHdV VKA3oBhRGpKYbVwfBqDjDNC1yapCu24lGAOOFt71o7CgBvwVYdQfzTNLFhFRpnX9ja7Q 3CqeyAXqdNW6Xii542NHYNkthZ61nbcjTzi6sfha4yw0mgsRVhCPGvJ/4qgVctX8vp9Y tn3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=lzQr3QRcY4Q+tp8nNrmSuuK59KFqJIGyjLy7fsYAAHA=; b=V8X3FYsh1C6xltfog3Hrq5JBgxGlHdJo9/oiiWUfIkCE+MajdQQ+yanpkFvrxOw6OG mQ3juwYzIihntRMITuShQw8fzdsJXnHfhZ/j7FkuY6iHB/omlTJW6bJmWWyZ6AvdtiwS xpA6N/Kdbbbe3nEj6MR2uRlDd9uTnObyHiaz0tPnFk8VEqzvmelJ4ORph8X2lL850WR0 pklcBRcSztNtg5KOwLQcy6DwMU4Go6OvSEAWxKwYNYOf7djKXAhStvnGyuBz4I0vVaQ8 En9eMYlQDWRRWZ41W2a6uvtxrd2e1AfJh6aesg2RyOOoaGPLQmrinIl23YX50OrQGGbV SdDA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMnzZcqmhDdpIJNthQMFmW0ZgQe0tVaVKBhy8c3rxtvl5vhdegppP5kIFuLO86W+HohcCB8bBO/bSfRzA== X-Received: by 10.176.64.161 with SMTP id i30mr11810945uad.107.1472848867588; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:41:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:40:56 +0000 Message-ID: To: Davey Shafik , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c1237128fb3ae053b8c59cf Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: dave+php@mudsite.com (David Walker) --94eb2c1237128fb3ae053b8c59cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:33 PM Davey Shafik wrote: > Hi internals, > > I'd like to introduce a new RFC to deprecate pear/pecl (in 7.2, and remove > in 8.0), as well as add composer/pickle (optional in 7.2, default in 7.3+) > in their place. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-pear-include-composer +1 A bunch of years back I tried contributing to a handful of PEAR_Auth packages and the 'maintainer' rejected them all on the basis of the PEAR library was mothballed with recommendation to use ZendFrameworks Auth packages. I know at least where I work we're migrating everything off of PEAR in deference to community maintained packages in composer. The only negative I could possibly see is a lack of a central, for lack of a better term, authority of PHP preferred packages for the multitude of services PEAR offers. But I don't necessarily see this as a major issue with the multitude of frameworksµframeworks that modularize all their bits and places like composer/packagist maintaining a growing list of packages. I guess PEAR served that purpose years ago in a more isolated PHP source environment, rather than today where it's heavily tracked and distributed. Cheers -- Dave --94eb2c1237128fb3ae053b8c59cf--