Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95590 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49171 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2016 20:37:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2016 20:37:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=me@daveyshafik.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=me@daveyshafik.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain daveyshafik.com from 209.85.220.177 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: me@daveyshafik.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.177 mail-qk0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.177] ([209.85.220.177:35514] helo=mail-qk0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 82/52-19490-323E9C75 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:37:56 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id v123so132225092qkh.2 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=daveyshafik-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=0VWkFLqOQ5heaAF8/Sq8RRVrn+QX+fQI5IGdMlhKB+M=; b=rqIAPKLfUcKt0blSE490IozS5OIrZ2qg909nXrfRQL8op/jlAMen1DZmhLLTCfA7RW zcUrGKGlDcAQtS+GUwU71lgvQhP3VKfEVVm3RAR3KoMoKF1ENBOdLczMLftFy3Ibucj6 Sf5A3Y3gesxwScHU/0aohwZQwJdUUH+ZRSOU053GDa+h5kjY6ae4wbKe6LOCb3Oegae1 gJn3hqbCsnKV2jiAQFgEoxc0+yWCz2NEVZh9C1VjqldjERppqUenSf6HJTjARYQP4rBk IXhM+MM3v3ee598xxmUxdJeDexwNptTILuf9Wx/N8Z9xTOxLInJ6N2+/zEhV+0ZfPlbo JhhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0VWkFLqOQ5heaAF8/Sq8RRVrn+QX+fQI5IGdMlhKB+M=; b=E35+UryZUSL9SVua5tYypgiLW2+NXkSqibYm1L7cFPwK7UFz6HjLffbpoMHiclBRMs 37Az7S4ZnyH+C8s4QyD8xZ8XUl0yTK5exjQQvnkvocvJfIYYDPjVDh864fQ6ZnSnDc2j W1YxkqD27cTox3rHkMX8YpSAW659Sb16FAUvv0RGsDbLtMOd2uTwOk72DUfZFOeKvH+r tTDD1QW0pFTOEpFgDjBYJ2Y8EZxyka7TtTYLsuDJ2Hf7rfvUeU8OyStVnEKe2cSGxVWI 9UzdssOZMfSYOA/cEgTXvp7xeHkFdMc05hsHqfeRf0C/LyUA65fQYtR2woGoqKzw3P3H kN0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNwMn1iVpOrXBphrcNdhe50qfciQkFxFuZ9lbbC3+3HdOCfBRTlK45F1qiZLH5gva7leWkWaSpGrKbpV3lT X-Received: by 10.55.92.193 with SMTP id q184mr24862214qkb.139.1472848672378; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:37:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: me@daveyshafik.com Received: by 10.237.55.138 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:37:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:37:51 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gvT_O8Hfx9Dfr3sbWnpiN29lMhE Message-ID: To: James Gilliland Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114e6328ecf543053b8c4d97 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: davey@php.net (Davey Shafik) --001a114e6328ecf543053b8c4d97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:57 PM, James Gilliland wrote: > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:33 PM Davey Shafik wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > I'd like to introduce a new RFC to deprecate pear/pecl (in 7.2, and > remove > > in 8.0), as well as add composer/pickle (optional in 7.2, default in > 7.3+) > > in their place. > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-pear-include-composer > > > > I highly recommend reading the twitter poll and accompanying thread at > > https://twitter.com/dshafik/status/756337267547832320 > > > > I believe that pickle solves the issues with regards to pecl, and have > run > > the idea passed Jordi and Pierre. Both are fine with this RFC. :) > > > > I understand that adding in composer/pickle is just setting us up for > > having a future "Deprecate composer/pickle & Replace with foo/bar" RFC, > so > > I've proposed the voting reflect that some people will just want to > > deprecate/remove pear/pecl and not replace them at all. > > > > I'm also proposing voting choices around the optional/default > introduction > > of composer/pickle. > > > > - Davey > > > Will composer/pickle address the unsolved PHP compatibility issue that > makes pecl a pain following the PHP 7 release? > Which, exactly? - Davey --001a114e6328ecf543053b8c4d97--