Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95586 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32832 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2016 19:32:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2016 19:32:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=me@daveyshafik.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=me@daveyshafik.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain daveyshafik.com from 209.85.220.176 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: me@daveyshafik.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.176 mail-qk0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.176] ([209.85.220.176:33316] helo=mail-qk0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8C/D0-19490-FC3D9C75 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 15:32:32 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f176.google.com with SMTP id z190so130625481qkc.0 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 12:32:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=daveyshafik-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6a+eqkq60fNmHh/siqY1QmVyOcL5462oQ3gJyx90drw=; b=JCE58L0vmeKTnHHEG/EjOhpRA0cIUTWZb5kOXjdPqvIgL9ctKxTYNO52emWSktHy3U gsjAbNL0kZ2gIzRWHO1BRwHDyvuG0Os9FABPxyqAvTYpZuuQq/BLm/uGi8svaNd6vDuX ktD482iaJgfYyZIbmyOAZtqYWY1YUNgSEUNjW8FHSVe0y6aLZhSRQDIeFz1Dhp9XODHo z7oWY2mTPwNiLwhTv5WdHeRP5VE9SkFhk0kpBbcxZ/xjYDDNsBJMZ2cC3vysTlvIrR5w 23ddmAzG2lRc2j9AjPRPk+tnWYnie3gcoVxCTKP+5k0JnVxWsg4jfU5fsUJSHJWhZWt2 Yrvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6a+eqkq60fNmHh/siqY1QmVyOcL5462oQ3gJyx90drw=; b=E/aR03TFMNCiRK3qrSpRNwZ2YSDDAcSBExIBLaCnBn0/o3cRcsSrddIAqBOqq8GZ8T YaSxbPSTVJfeRy1tM5vydTDrTpUytzCN1RuXsz+6VVT20xCoj/8XMER5amWm80k8uS/n nP0KagIFL5N1GUCeuzJyGnUHzbr1ZvxI+f3vYIs1/fMlKWyty0nqpgwO0jkK2hCY0/FS ILo6iFfZ7HJshNRMD56i2e32x3kAhUBSBbIshjP8Eov8YrGnA0vSK/cUCu1u7tus7gvv hKluBLS/Z2XXmV3jTAbwYqeKQOmWIx9fLlndXamS0/I9rZF9D2/gkzm46XCc4ian7oR2 8wvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNkx+1m3Npvz/NvVoa48B9wq91mLuGBx4DnkiFrEnCkbU2Ns96losZmKpz02erL89P6nrzIA5m6gC39VSah X-Received: by 10.55.214.68 with SMTP id t65mr3158857qki.216.1472844748249; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 12:32:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.55.138 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 12:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 12:32:27 -0700 Message-ID: To: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1149a728077efd053b8b645f Subject: [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle From: me@daveyshafik.com (Davey Shafik) --001a1149a728077efd053b8b645f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi internals, I'd like to introduce a new RFC to deprecate pear/pecl (in 7.2, and remove in 8.0), as well as add composer/pickle (optional in 7.2, default in 7.3+) in their place. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-pear-include-composer I highly recommend reading the twitter poll and accompanying thread at https://twitter.com/dshafik/status/756337267547832320 I believe that pickle solves the issues with regards to pecl, and have run the idea passed Jordi and Pierre. Both are fine with this RFC. :) I understand that adding in composer/pickle is just setting us up for having a future "Deprecate composer/pickle & Replace with foo/bar" RFC, so I've proposed the voting reflect that some people will just want to deprecate/remove pear/pecl and not replace them at all. I'm also proposing voting choices around the optional/default introduction of composer/pickle. - Davey --001a1149a728077efd053b8b645f--