Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95535 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62899 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2016 12:33:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2016 12:33:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.41 mail-wm0-f41.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.41] ([74.125.82.41:35847] helo=mail-wm0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6F/61-47600-E0028C75 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 08:33:19 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c133so75927284wmd.1 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:33:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O10FkimkdpTj+unpuobaD0QC757T0L1LRw3NiBiOvvE=; b=PX1h7a9lcsPgUUufB0KcLPX3IfXWjNodOsH2xpxTkuC+2ErDroMjH5a3t8D//VX6p2 dD200UAjo0yqHWr/uGRVcyuKI92TBgkM9UAZQhQot11QHEP0U18jFPPDDQndq172JKmw n5Vixciij/vdiZwGsEOWKWtNX5AQwEjw/IZ5LYrSmXaVl+VQhOjL2tedI842+iS7qFx+ gN/k9B1IoOE6rsF1iNB5vTWybLYF+8c70rahju2GPaK8xhfhqowCTKzONJ3Ywa5MSv5h bk2u/deY4eXlCn7j+c7GJlADNa3Q8LvEoSS3oRmP4HxHfeBwyK38SNH2ysGXA4vFjZDl i87g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O10FkimkdpTj+unpuobaD0QC757T0L1LRw3NiBiOvvE=; b=lbs5KlUKDkdKBeKiBup5i0FaT9GEd1nWwP/bjl/sGf6Rx8zVjEmsjGZd20+/7q/O3+ rwp+B25fMXDw04SvVogmckcbDPaLAWwQ7fG/PH1w5jSy796bwubVsd9eUFaV0YPKY+N+ 4I/uLGjSfbOY6QAUWlTPN1+tJn4abcrvlCNdukmkdD/EiclK0E3N0W0PrA80SIghazGX Upiv8tX5xQ3vPgObKwybQ8gZkNi/omk8Exd8eg/b3uw6dA46tJWP0SQmsfEE+AK8TW8y Lhca3uTmMs+u0+6yd43uju6NHpofWWUZBJEeHJpO49cXoDUvrPPGEaxysIxPP8FyMuz9 dF7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMudHPGmAj9TlNl3CL+/s3LlF7K9HulgormZ3Hx7gNT+00uKByxEf2JDIp23n5h1g== X-Received: by 10.194.20.65 with SMTP id l1mr15883386wje.71.1472733196020; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.98] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bc10sm5077311wjc.32.2016.09.01.05.33.14 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:33:15 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1B0AC155-9A8E-49B4-8424-DAAE87C67FE2@thesba.com> Message-ID: <0fbfdea4-05ed-6714-9cde-2b9cff9fb4a6@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:30:59 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Suggestion From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 01/09/2016 13:12, Marco Pivetta wrote: > Yeah, and I would question: > > 1. why are you editing with a plaintext editor and searching stuff like > that? Are you in a super-hurry? Seems like a 0.001% scenario > 2. why do you need to search for functions in a class? Just what kind of > monstrous abomination are you working on? I think this conversation is going nowhere. We can equally ask hypothetical questions the other way: - Why do you find the word "function" so hard to type? Are you in a super-hurry? - Why are your function declarations so long that you need to save 8 characters? What kind of abomination are you working on? etc etc There really isn't that much to say either way: some people like having the keyword introduce each declaration, some people don't. Can we just agree that it's a matter of style? If we were designing a new language, we could vote on what consistent style we wanted to create. With 20 years of existing language history, there's always going to be a bias towards keeping things as they are. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]