Newsgroups: php.general,php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.general:325720 php.internals:95491 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40426 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2016 05:09:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Aug 2016 05:09:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.174 mail-qk0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.174] ([209.85.220.174:35231] helo=mail-qk0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/0F-34481-C1272C75 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 01:09:48 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f174.google.com with SMTP id v123so111793075qkh.2; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:09:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YKxDb9r2nSW4+/KSupJFn34XuTNGxsFBAZvnluuraNY=; b=BrJXO7Pb0IFMwDcV8eCiwx3DbdrR6N691MOro8npyFyOwv74tmr7hVWVM7Jb1VRhfU TYoeDxbrU+xlZ3r2dEqAMErP8TxIl5PnTa5bMTfBmyb/HcmR5dD17BK+NckLGA0s6Gdh GjRYlhORutCKtpLSuQyrbYTBMYrum93eXtCGU0z0IvcIgZnsEyCg9gcz/Vu3yyLyowjS dheersgjGj2ISKAhTtdYaZsOPJ1xs2/uGJPU3bvfaPaVIpaiKL9mdRNCVMxzghHZ2fr+ 5cE+8N3TBsc33iYJCDYSy7XJOuKMuRFyb+hUsiTGBhM22U6DHhyvl3jJhqiuaRQYaCjd o/0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YKxDb9r2nSW4+/KSupJFn34XuTNGxsFBAZvnluuraNY=; b=bC6CEtKfLkxs0L1Xgqs8K1nPfLihNAQaCrLiN3rBham9+2s1zRCqrYo9upFOs4hAAd PxfYXUdE+Vh12OnxB1LUFx/qJk+eRCuLSU00WFvjcUKTA5xaEW9a6WwRWnIl6xWA8GR1 uiwpgvl9VYJn/vkiMt2hrmr14LrZVOQt1fHicGBlYBrj+3qPG1SmcsK+X6dr2MJrIggO WCPaoqVSIhiRp7KQYCbfWXE+h4WkVOw1MXU+vdgcaGrBLUriHl+wIDz/SxjK90XnbfMJ 7mXL4ORlsN017UwZRqkZLLzgZHxnJrebxm5okypd5XRRm8Q3ttZcaeL+0Qip0dOJ1Z08 MDKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNuMgb8i/KCkNaOVlCwnbHr2YnLEeGc3968G90rhFos72XIlD0MhWRW3vMxs15cXrrx8kGV4r3cjIvMqw== X-Received: by 10.55.116.7 with SMTP id p7mr12440083qkc.239.1472360985945; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:09:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.52.68 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:09:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 07:09:25 +0200 Message-ID: To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen Cc: php-general@lists.php.net, Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1148733a8c6bbf053b1ac183 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] feature-request : html + css logging in apache logs (example for the rest of the unix community too) From: rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com (Rene Veerman) --001a1148733a8c6bbf053b1ac183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thank you. I'm not insisting it become the default, just thought it'd be handy.. As for the RFC, i'll do it after a nice long nap OK :) I dont know anything about the internals of PHP, i'm a PHP + HTML developer exclusively, but i'll try to give you some implementation suggestions in what i can make of that RFC.. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > Hi > > 2016-08-28 5:07 GMT+02:00 Rene Veerman >: > > > > it would really cut my development time in more than half if you could > add > > "all of this" (it's deadsimple and a few hours work imo) to the next > > versions of PHP (and please make it the default, you can include sample > CSS > > or read in a CSS file that you set in php.ini (comment on how to do this > in > > the logfile html please)).. > > The best way to accomplish this is to make an RFC[1], detailing this > carefully, in a well-phrased manner. > > Side note here, despite it may be "deadsimple", it may not be so > simple to just change PHP to act as you want in the next release, PHP > is used by hundreds of millions, this means that anything that can > change PHP's behavior must be analyzed, and it is very rarely we do > such changes in minor releases. This means that the next release, if > you write an RFC, should target PHP 7.2.0. > > For a feature like you propose, or as to how I read it, it would most > likely never become default, but if it did get implemented in PHP, it > would most likely be an opt-in feature. Sorry, but it is the harsh > reality. > > > Again, like mentioned on the php-general@ list, please keep to the > mailing list rules, as linked in regards to top posting, and please do > not embed huge chunks of code into mails, send a link to a paste bin > instead, it makes the code rather hard to read and understand > properly. Thanks > > > [1] http://wiki.php.net/rfc > > > -- > regards, > > Kalle Sommer Nielsen > PHP Core Developer > kalle@php.net > --001a1148733a8c6bbf053b1ac183--